<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: normal;">I also disagree with the "replacement" of Xfce's mailing lists entirely, but I think a Discourse or similar forum could be really helpful for Xfce users themselves! </span><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: normal;">There's not a lot of users who ask for help here - I think that could be that people don't really understand mailing lists anymore. Xfce's stability does help, though! :)</span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: normal;">Cheers,</span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: normal;">Barrett</span><br></div><div class="protonmail_quote">
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On Saturday, May 27th, 2023 at 1:23 PM, Jack Pogorelsky Jr. <jacksulmail@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br>
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It's a Horror Joke.<br>
XFCE should not change.<br>
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Jack Pogorelsky Jr.<br>
Mechanical Engineer<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Em 27/05/2023 03:36, Maximilien Noal
escreveu:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Is... Is this a joke ?! </div>
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">Le sam. 27 mai 2023, 07:24,
Euri <<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:EuriNaiz@protonmail.com" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">EuriNaiz@protonmail.com</a>>
a écrit :<br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Hi,
after everything, let me introduce myself: My name is Euri
(means rain in basque language), and I'm psychologist, I'm
taking a degree in teaching arts in basic education
(elementary and high-school), and I'm taking a UX/UI design
degree too.</div>
<div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">So,
I'm really close to the GNOME project (but I'm not part of
them), and I want to help to improve GNU/Linux desktop, so,
I want to offer my help to you, Xfce.</div>
<div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">For
me Xfce is a great DE, and I think it is getting old and out
of time, and I don't want to see the project die (It should
keep updated to the modernity).</div>
<div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">In
the past, I posted an [Article talking about it](<span><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="https://www.eurinaiz.com/blog/GTK-HIGs-And-The-XFCE-Future/" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">https://www.eurinaiz.com/blog/GTK-HIGs-And-The-XFCE-Future/</a></span>),
In that moment I had no idea about UX and UI design, but
now, I think I can collaborate more than in the past.</div>
<div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">A
week ago I asked on [reddit about a place to do surveys,](<span><a target="_blank" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/xfce/comments/13nle5p/where_can_i_do_surveys_for_gnulinux_desktop/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/xfce/comments/13nle5p/where_can_i_do_surveys_for_gnulinux_desktop/</a></span>)
and <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank" href="http://nogafam.es">nogafam.es</a>
gave me a nextcloud account (to use nextcloud forms).</div>
<div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">I
have some ideas to make Xfce even more great, I have in mind
a big changes that can be done to make a real modernisation
in Xfce.</div>
<div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">But,
first, I'd like to do some surveys to know about Xfce user's
expectations and what would be appreciated, I've read the
roadmap already, so I know about the Xfce's vision and I
think that my apportions would be appreciated.</div>
<div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Today
I joined a GNOME Latam (I'm a spanish native speaker)
conference talking about the design team in Libre Software
projects.</div>
<div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">In
general my ideas are the following, I just list them to
expose em, but I don't want to discuss them in this thread
and right now, 1st I'd like to make the surveys and next,
start to discuss em. Also I wont base my propositions right
now, because it should be done in the discuss thread and
topic by topic.</div>
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<ol>
<li><span>New website design</span></li>
<li><span>Rebrand Xfce with new logo, new slogan,
typography, etc.</span></li>
<li><span>Move the forum to a new discourse instance (to
replace mailing list and FluxBB instance)</span></li>
<li><span>Redesign Xfce default layout and make the
designs predictable to theming</span></li>
<li><span>Adopting Libadwaita as part of Xfce (as well the
HIG, anyway Xfce has GNOME's HIGs as its official
HIGs)</span></li>
<li><span>Redesign all the apps to use correctly CSD and
headerbars</span></li>
<li><span>Apply all UX fundaments to make the system and
apps more usable and accesible</span></li>
<li><span>Adopting Flatpak & Flathub as the official
distribution channels</span></li>
<li><span>A fully Matrix adoption (Irc is too old to
nowdays and it hasn't advantages)</span></li>
<li><span>A <span>self-support plan for XFCE</span></span></li>
<li><span><span>Adopting technology (<span>don't reinvent
the wheel</span>) to focus in creating new and
better GNU/linux apps</span></span></li>
</ol>
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<div>I'm gonna wait your replies, merci beaucoup.<br>
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Xfce mailing list<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank" href="mailto:Xfce@xfce.org">Xfce@xfce.org</a><br>
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Xfce mailing list
<a href="mailto:Xfce@xfce.org" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Xfce@xfce.org</a>
<a href="https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce</a>
<a href="http://www.xfce.org" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.xfce.org</a>
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