4.20-pre1 : stuck in workspace 0

[Ken Moffat]

On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 12:32:41PM +0000, Gaël Bonithon wrote:
> There is no support for workspace in xfce components, as there is currently no wayland protocol for this. We may merge something for labwc only, but that will be after xfce 4.20 is released.
> To use `startxfce4 --wayland` with wayfire, you need to add xfce4-session to the autostart section of wayfire.ini, as wayfire doesn't have a --startup option like labwc.
> See `startxfce4 --help` to see how the --wayland option works, and also https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap#testing
> 
> Cheers,
> Gaël
> 

Gaël,

 thanks again for your help.

Yes, I had already added xfce4-session in the session part of
autostare in wayfire.ini.

Without workspaces I don't think I'll be using xfce with wayland.
I'm used to having one firefox (ESR) on the first workspace,
epiphany on the second, another firefox (stable), on the third and
xfce-terminals scattered all over the workspaces.

More generally, I suspect I either built something in the wrong
sequence (I assumed I had installed xwayland befor I started, but
had not built it on that machine, did not notice it missing until I
started on compositors after completing the 4.20pre packages), or
else (using elogind, not systemd, with seatd using elogind) I need
to add a bootscript for something to get logout working.

So, wayfire was a waste of time. I live and learn. :-)

Regards,

ĸen

> On Thursday, November 14th, 2024 at 11:12 AM, Ken Moffat <zarniwhoop at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 06:45:54AM +0000, Ken Moffat wrote:
> > 
> > > Fresh boot today, after noticing some message from xscreensaver and
> > > wayloand as the tty shut down. It turns out that xscreensaver was
> > > running.
> > > 
> > > I do not understand that - it gets invoked from my .xinitrc if it
> > > exists, followed by my choice of window manager (fluxbox at first,
> > > xfce later after building a lot more packages).
> > > 
> > > But I'm using 'startxfce4 --wayland' : my ~/.xinitrc should not be
> > > invoked by that ?
> > > 
> > > The other thing is that I can now see the workspaces, and icons in
> > > some of them - and ctrl-alt-left/right arrow is working.
> > 
> > 
> > So much for logging in after barely sleeping - it seems I'd used
> > startx (finger memory). Retried startxfce4 --wayland (labwce), and
> > also specifying wayfire. Not able to logout from either.
> > 
> > And stuck on workspace0 just like yesterday.
> > 
> > Gibing up.
> > 
> > > This is really weird. (Using labwc at the moment, got to do other
> > > things, will maybe retry wayfire in several hours time).
> > > 
> > > ĸen
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 11:34:36PM +0000, Ken Moffat wrote:
> > > 
> > > > For my sins, I started by trying to use wayfire as the compositor.
> > > > Mostly works, my custom xkeyboard settings all work, from time to
> > > > time the screen blanks until I do something, and the "wobbly"
> > > > windows are not to my taste. But I could get used to that. However
> > > > I'm stuck on workspace 0 and cannot get to other workspaces.
> > > > 
> > > > That is with all the pre1 packages, subsequent applications from
> > > > 4.18 not rebuilt, minimal wayfire.ini.
> > > > 
> > > > So then I tried using labwc - (screen just blanked as I paused
> > > > there!), windows are not wobbly but looked nicer in wayfire, these
> > > > have light title bars although menus in non-gnome apps are dark
> > > > themed, keyboard lacks my Compose key etting (I guess labwc doesn't
> > > > like using right menu for grp change in XKB), but I'm still stuck in
> > > > Workspace0.
> > > > 
> > > > It used to be I could Ctrl-Alt-left-cursor|right-cursor or click on
> > > > the workspace in the panel, even if the workspace is empty, but I
> > > > cannot see where to click and no icons show for workspace contnets,
> > > > even for workspace0, with either compositor.
> > > > 
> > > > Is there an idiot's guide to how to use xfce in wayland ?
> > > > 
> > > > I had one oddity on the first run (could not logout,
> > > > org.xfce.SessionManager not found) but after rebooting that went
> > > > away and startxfce4 continues to work normally for X11.
> > > > 
> > > > But the longer I sit here trying to type this, the more annoyed I
> > > > get by the screen blanking. I suppose I have to move the mouse in a
> > > > certain time frame ?
> > > > 
> > > > ĸen
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