Automatic window tiling
Graeme Wolfendale
gwolfendale at gmail.com
Sun Sep 16 15:18:52 CEST 2012
Hi Boris,
Have you tried awesome wm? It lives up to its name :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRSgB5CuH1Q
http://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/Main_Page
It has a very fancy config written in Lua, so you can completely customise
how it acts..
Not exactly what you asked, but hopefully you find it interesting anyway,
Regards,
Graeme
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> 1. Automatic window tiling (Boris Hollas)
> 2. Re: xfwm4 + Zaphod mode + Wrap workspace (xfce at theiling.de)
> 3. Re: Automatic window tiling (Sergio)
> 4. Re: Automatic window tiling (killermoehre)
> 5. Re: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-weather-plugin 0.8.2 released (Liviu Andronic)
> 6. Re: Automatic window tiling (Boris Hollas)
> 7. Re: Automatic window tiling (Sergio)
> 8. Re: Automatic window tiling (Boris Hollas)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 12:47:18 +0200
> From: Boris Hollas <boris.hollas at gmx.de>
> To: xfce at xfce.org
> Subject: Automatic window tiling
> Message-ID: <50530B36.8080806 at gmx.de>
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> There are a number of tiling window managers but so far I haven't
> managed to smoothly run any of these in Xfce. Window decorations are
> lost, sometimes panel and workspaces are gone or cease to work. I have
> nice Mac-like window buttons that I want to keep although they aren't
> that useful in a tiling WM. I had a look at KDE recently and I like the
> integrated window tiling in KWin.
>
> Is there a way to set up automatic window tiling (no manual tiling as in
> x-tile) in Xfce without loosing window decorations and panel?
>
> Regards,
> Boris
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:25:05 +0200
> From: "xfce at theiling.de" <xfce at theiling.de>
> To: Xfce general discussion list <xfce at xfce.org>
> Subject: Re: xfwm4 + Zaphod mode + Wrap workspace
> Message-ID: <50531411.50000 at theiling.de>
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> Hi Erik!
>
> In 4.10 the code in question has not changed at all, so it would be nice
> to get this upstream. Please find a patch attached for 4.10.
>
> As I said, I don't understand why it is there, because if the feature is
> undesired by anyone, it can be switched off in the options. And in my
> case, it does exactly what I want, so it should not be hardcoded off, I
> think.
>
> Best regards,
> Henrik
>
> On 14/09/12 07:18, Silvio Knizek wrote:
> > Hi Erik,
> >
> > ever tried xfce4.10? 4.8 gets only security updates AFAIK.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > c'ya at irc://irc.freenode.net/xfce <http://irc.freenode.net/xfce>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "xfce at theiling.de" <xfce at theiling.de> schrieb:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > My name is Henrik and I subscribed to the XFCE mailing list.
> >
> > First of all, thanks for all the good work! Finally after years of
> > using fvwm1 (a private patched version), I found a good replacement
> for
> > it in xfce. I am running Debian Wheezy (i.e., xfce 4.8), and xorg
> with
> > an intel driver on a Laptop. X11 ist set up to run in Zaphod mode,
> > i.e., two heads with separate screens :0.0 and :0.1.
> >
> > In this setting, I noticed that xfwm does not wrap the workspace
> despite
> > enabling this feature. It works when pulling a window along, but not
> > without. I have set up no logical relation between the screens (no
> > LeftOf or the like, I am switching with 'xdotool mousemove'), so I
> don't
> > know exactly why xfwm thinks it's a bad idea to wrap the workspace
> with
> > the mouse. But it really does, hardcoded, in events.c:
> >
> >
> > if
> > (display_info->nb_screens> 1)
> > {
> > /* Wrap workspace/wrap windows is disabled with
> multiscreen */
> > return EVENT_FILTER_REMOVE;
> > }
> >
> > Does anyone know why exactly this is disabled? I mean, if you don't
> > like it, you can disable the feature in the WM settings nice and
> easy.
> > Because I wanted this feature badly, I put a #if 0...#endif around
> the
> > above code and recompiled, and it works like a charm. I couldn't see
> > any bug in my multiscreen setup.
> >
> > So please consider removing those lines of code. Again: if you don't
> > like xfwm's behaviour for some reason (e.g. because X moves the
> cursor
> > to the other screen when hitting the edge (which it does not do for
> me
> > due to the missing relationship of the screens)), you can always
> disable
> > the feature. But I could not *enable* it in my case except for
> recompiling.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Henrik
> >
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> From: Sergio <sergiocmailbox-xfce at yahoo.com.br>
> To: Xfce general discussion list <xfce at xfce.org>
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> --- Em sex, 14/9/12, Boris Hollas <boris.hollas at gmx.de> escreveu:
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> > De: Boris Hollas <boris.hollas at gmx.de>
> > Assunto: Automatic window tiling
> > Para: xfce at xfce.org
> > Data: Sexta-feira, 14 de Setembro de 2012, 7:47
> > There are a number of tiling window
> > managers but so far I haven't managed to smoothly run any of
> > these in Xfce. Window decorations are lost, sometimes panel
> > and workspaces are gone or cease to work. I have nice
> > Mac-like window buttons that I want to keep although they
> > aren't that useful in a tiling WM. I had a look at KDE
> > recently and I like the integrated window tiling in KWin.
> >
> > Is there a way to set up automatic window tiling (no manual
> > tiling as in x-tile) in Xfce without loosing window
> > decorations and panel?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Boris
>
> Xfce 4.10 offers simple 1/2 screen horizontal and vertical tiling that can
> be bound to keyboard shortcuts (alt+f10 undoes the tiling).
> Actually if you don't enable workspace wrapping (i.e., if you disable
> dragging windows from one workspace to the next) you can tile by dragging
> the window to the borders.
>
> There's an automatic tiling app for openbox at
> https://github.com/lawl/opensnap but I don't know if it would work with
> xfwm.
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:41:50 +0200
> From: killermoehre <killermoehre at gmx.net>
> To: xfce at xfce.org
> Subject: Re: Automatic window tiling
> Message-ID: <505317FE.7090603 at gmx.net>
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> Am 14.09.2012 12:47, schrieb Boris Hollas:
> > There are a number of tiling window managers but so far I haven't
> > managed to smoothly run any of these in Xfce. Window decorations are
> > lost, sometimes panel and workspaces are gone or cease to work. I have
> > nice Mac-like window buttons that I want to keep although they aren't
> > that useful in a tiling WM. I had a look at KDE recently and I like the
> > integrated window tiling in KWin.
> >
> > Is there a way to set up automatic window tiling (no manual tiling as in
> > x-tile) in Xfce without loosing window decorations and panel?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Boris
>
> Hi Boris,
>
> you can't use the window decoration from xfce with another window
> manager, because the decorations are provided by xfwm4.
> If you want to use kwin, just use kwin.
>
> Regards
>
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> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:12:08 +0200
> From: Liviu Andronic <landronimirc at gmail.com>
> To: Xfce general discussion list <xfce at xfce.org>
> Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-weather-plugin 0.8.2 released
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> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Harald Judt <h.judt at gmx.at> wrote:
> > Am 13.09.2012 22:20, schrieb Liviu Andronic:
> >> It seems that this affects users of recent versions of automake
> >> (>1.6). I use 1.11.3.
> >>
> >
> > I have several versions of automake installed together with some wrapper,
> > but for the plugin 1.12.3 was used. I wonder if this is only specific to
> a
> > certain version. If it is, then I think adding another instruction step
> to
> > the build instructions would do. If not, it will need a fix. I will see
> how
> > other plugins handle it, maybe that gives a clue.
> >
> I actually have the same issues with xfce4-screenshooter, so I guess
> that this has less to do specifically with the weather plugin than
> with how recent versions of automake should be used. Or perhaps
> something is messed up on my system. But I've never encountered
> anything similar before---./autogen.sh always had the same predictable
> effect---so I'm not sure on how to proceed.
>
> Regards
> Liviu
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:39:33 +0200
> From: Boris Hollas <boris.hollas at gmx.de>
> To: sergiocmailbox-xfce at yahoo.com.br, Xfce general discussion list
> <xfce at xfce.org>
> Subject: Re: Automatic window tiling
> Message-ID: <50532585.6040704 at gmx.de>
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> On 14.09.2012 13:39, Sergio wrote:
> > Xfce 4.10 offers simple 1/2 screen horizontal and vertical tiling that
> can be bound to keyboard shortcuts (alt+f10 undoes the tiling).
> > Actually if you don't enable workspace wrapping (i.e., if you disable
> dragging windows from one workspace to the next) you can tile by dragging
> the window to the borders.
>
> I know, but it's not automatic.
>
> > There's an automatic tiling app for openbox at
> https://github.com/lawl/opensnap but I don't know if it would work with
> xfwm.
>
> The readme says "It tries to bring to aero snap like features to
> openbox." Does this include full automatic tiling, ie I open or close a
> window and other windows are resized?
>
> If so, I'll try it with Xfce. The information on
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Openbox_Themes_and_Apps suggests
> that I can use Gtk themes and the Xfce panel even if I use the openbox WM.
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 05:45:47 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Sergio <sergiocmailbox-xfce at yahoo.com.br>
> To: Xfce general discussion list <xfce at xfce.org>, Boris Hollas
> <boris.hollas at gmx.de>
> Subject: Re: Automatic window tiling
> Message-ID:
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>
> > > There's an automatic tiling app for openbox at
> https://github.com/lawl/opensnap but I don't know if it
> > would work with xfwm.
> >
> > The readme says "It tries to bring to aero snap like
> > features to openbox." Does this include full automatic
> > tiling, ie I open or close a window and other windows are
> > resized?
> >
> > If so, I'll try it with Xfce. The information on
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Openbox_Themes_and_Apps
> > suggests that I can use Gtk themes and the Xfce panel even
> > if I use the openbox WM.
> >
>
> Sure you can use openbox with Xfce but as for the 'full automatic tiling'
> I really don't know as the last Windows I use was 2000 (so no 'aero' then).
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:13:05 +0200
> From: Boris Hollas <boris.hollas at gmx.de>
> To: Xfce general discussion list <xfce at xfce.org>
> Subject: Re: Automatic window tiling
> Message-ID: <50532D61.4040708 at gmx.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 14.09.2012 14:45, Sergio wrote:
> > Sure you can use openbox with Xfce but as for the 'full automatic
> tiling' I really don't know as the last Windows I use was 2000 (so no
> 'aero' then).
>
> I'm not a regular Windows user either but I think Aero Snap is manual
> 1/2 tiling as in Xfce 4.10.
>
> Automatic tiling means that windows are arranged according to a scheme
> in order to minimize unused space. Eg, with a spiral layout on a blank
> desktop successively opening 3 windows gives the layout
>
> 11
> 11
>
> 12
> 12
>
> 12
> 13
>
> where k = 1..3 is the window number.
>
> Does opensnap do this?
>
>
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