Xfce Foundation status

Auke Kok auke at foo-projects.org
Sun Oct 17 17:30:37 CEST 2010


On 10/17/2010 03:18 AM, Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 11:18:02 +0200
> Fabian Nowak<timystery at arcor.de>  wrote:
>
>> Am Samstag, den 16.10.2010, 18:00 +0200 schrieb Jannis Pohlmann:
>>> On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:40:13 +0200
>>> Jannis Pohlmann<jannis at xfce.org>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:31:39 +0200
>>>> Fabian Nowak<timystery at arcor.de>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am Samstag, den 16.10.2010, 12:29 +0200 schrieb Jon:
>>>>>> On Thursday 14 October 2010 21:56:21 Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Foundation" also seems to be quite common as part of the
>>>>>>>> name regardless of the concrete legal entity, so it
>>>>>>>> probably is a good choice as long as there is no German
>>>>>>>> law preventing that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure there's no such law. The LXDE Foundation is
>>>>>>> a German e.V. as well. And yes, in informal contexts one
>>>>>>> can leave out the "e.V.".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, that would not be a problem. We could not name it e. g.
>>>>>> Xfce GmbH e. V. as "GmbH" is a proper legal form in Germany.
>>>>>> "Foundation" however, is not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Naming the e.V. "Xfce Foundation" results in not being able to
>>>>> raise a foundation for Xfce that would be named "Foundation".
>>>>
>>>> I seriously doubt that anyone would ever want to create a SECOND
>>>> non-profit organization for the same purpose. So this argument is
>>>> irrelevant.
>>
>> Two things:
>> 1) The Xfce * e.V ist not meant as a foundation from my understanding
>> of the discussion.
>> 2) Why can you argue that noone would want to raise a real foundation
>> dedicted to Xfce? Already among this discussion here have been
>> statements that people wanted to donate.
>> Maybe the entire document/discussion is unclear and one should try to
>> make Xfce * e.V. also a real foundation by the whole concept. Then
>> naming it this way would be very fine.
>
> I think there is a misunderstanding here. An non-profit e.V. can
> receive donations just fine. People can even deduct their donations
> from the taxes they pay (or rather from the taxable income).
>
> Please inform yourself next time you enter a discussion. Otherwise the
> tag "ridiculous" is quickly going to be applied to your own behaviour.

Agreed with Jannis here - the form of the container (e.V.) is only 
marginally relevant to what it will do - and that's all defined in the 
statutes, not somewhere else.

Auke



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