XFCE-counterpart of KDE-Networkmanager

Jordan Metzmeier titan8990 at gmail.com
Wed Aug 4 05:47:25 CEST 2010


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On 08/03/2010 11:17 PM, Jax wrote:
> ifconfig loser...

This is inappropriate and unhelpful. This is not about "real men use the
CLI". Some things are more appropriate in a GUI or TUI, and I believe
that displaying and selecting wireless networks is one of those things.

Lets just have a look at my current iwlist output:

jdebtop jordan # iwlist wlan0 scan
wlan0     Scan completed :
          Cell 01 - Address: 00:22:3F:9D:DE:AA
                    Channel:1
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1)
                    Quality=39/70  Signal level=-71 dBm
                    Encryption key:on
                    ESSID:"AVGAguerito"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
                              11 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=0000002e2fac5683
                    Extra: Last beacon: 7084ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 000B415647416775657269746F
                    IE: Unknown: 010882848B0C12961824
                    IE: Unknown: 030101
                    IE: Unknown: 0706555320010B1B
                    IE: Unknown: 200100
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (2) : CCMP TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (2) : CCMP TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0102
                    IE: Unknown: 32043048606C
                    IE: Unknown:
DD180050F2020101020003A4000027A4000042435E0062322F00
                    IE: Unknown:
DD1E00904C334C101BFFFF000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown:
2D1A4C101BFFFF000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown:
DD1A00904C3401001900000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown:
3D1601001900000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: DD0900037F01010000FF7F
                    IE: Unknown: DD0A00037F04010000000000
                    IE: Unknown:
DD820050F204104A000110104400010110570001001041000100103B00010310470010565AA94967C14C0EAA8FF349E6F593111021000D4E6574676561722C20496E632E10230007574E523230303010240007574E523230303010420004353637381054000800060050F204000110110007574E5232303030100800020084103C000103
          Cell 02 - Address: 00:1B:2F:BB:0E:B5
                    Channel:6
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality=69/70  Signal level=-41 dBm
                    Encryption key:off
                    ESSID:"conti 1-1"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
                              11 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=00000000987c5d27
                    Extra: Last beacon: 72ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 0009636F6E746920312D31
                    IE: Unknown: 010882848B0C12961824
                    IE: Unknown: 030106
                    IE: Unknown: 0706555320010B1B
                    IE: Unknown: 200100
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0100
                    IE: Unknown: 32043048606C
                    IE: Unknown:
DD180050F2020101830003A4000027A4000042435E0062322F00
                    IE: Unknown: DD0900037F0101003DFF7F
                    IE: Unknown:
DD1A00037F0301000000001B2FBB0EB5061B2FBB0EB564002C013D08
          Cell 03 - Address: 00:1B:2F:BC:92:B9
                    Channel:6
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality=30/70  Signal level=-80 dBm
                    Encryption key:off
                    ESSID:"CONTI 3-2"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
                              11 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=000001e134c9b181
                    Extra: Last beacon: 6896ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 0009434F4E544920332D32
                    IE: Unknown: 010882848B0C12961824
                    IE: Unknown: 030106
                    IE: Unknown: 0706555320010B1B
                    IE: Unknown: 200100
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0100
                    IE: Unknown: 32043048606C
                    IE: Unknown:
DD180050F2020101820003A4000027A4000042435E0062322F00
                    IE: Unknown: DD0900037F01010035FF7F
          Cell 04 - Address: 00:1B:2F:BB:0F:77
                    Channel:6
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality=28/70  Signal level=-82 dBm
                    Encryption key:off
                    ESSID:"CONTI 3-1"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
                              11 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=0000017fba321a4e
                    Extra: Last beacon: 6716ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 0009434F4E544920332D31
                    IE: Unknown: 010882848B0C12961824
                    IE: Unknown: 030106
                    IE: Unknown: 0706555320010B1B
                    IE: Unknown: 200100
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0100
                    IE: Unknown: 32043048606C
                    IE: Unknown:
DD180050F2020101820003A4000027A4000042435E0062322F00
                    IE: Unknown: DD0900037F01010035FF7F
          Cell 05 - Address: 00:1B:2F:BC:8D:41
                    Channel:6
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality=34/70  Signal level=-76 dBm
                    Encryption key:off
                    ESSID:"CONTI 2-1"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
                              11 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=0000017fb84e5181
                    Extra: Last beacon: 6708ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 0009434F4E544920322D31
                    IE: Unknown: 010882848B0C12961824
                    IE: Unknown: 030106
                    IE: Unknown: 0706555320010B1B
                    IE: Unknown: 200100
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0100
                    IE: Unknown: 32043048606C
                    IE: Unknown:
DD180050F2020101820003A4000027A4000042435E0062322F00
                    IE: Unknown: DD0900037F01010035FF7F
          Cell 06 - Address: 00:1B:2F:BB:0E:D9
                    Channel:6
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality=34/70  Signal level=-76 dBm
                    Encryption key:off
                    ESSID:"CONTI 2-2"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
                              11 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=0000003c6dcfe608
                    Extra: Last beacon: 6688ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 0009434F4E544920322D32
                    IE: Unknown: 010882848B0C12961824
                    IE: Unknown: 030106
                    IE: Unknown: 0706555320010B1B
                    IE: Unknown: 200100
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0100
                    IE: Unknown: 32043048606C
                    IE: Unknown:
DD180050F2020101830003A4000027A4000042435E0062322F00
                    IE: Unknown: DD0900037F0101003DFF7F
                    IE: Unknown:
DD1A00037F0301000000001B2FBB0ED9061B2FBB0ED964002C013D08
          Cell 07 - Address: 00:0C:41:41:01:18
                    Channel:10
                    Frequency:2.457 GHz (Channel 10)
                    Quality=41/70  Signal level=-69 dBm
                    Encryption key:on
                    ESSID:"hudson"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=0000009817dcfc5c
                    Extra: Last beacon: 6304ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 0006687564736F6E
                    IE: Unknown: 010482840B16
                    IE: Unknown: 03010A
                    IE: Unknown: 0406000200000000
          Cell 08 - Address: 00:18:01:0B:0B:98
                    Channel:9
                    Frequency:2.452 GHz (Channel 9)
                    Quality=27/70  Signal level=-83 dBm
                    Encryption key:on
                    ESSID:"9JIF0"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 22 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s
                              36 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=000000059aa5610e
                    Extra: Last beacon: 6484ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 0005394A494630
                    IE: Unknown: 010582848B962C
                    IE: Unknown: 030109
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0102
                    IE: Unknown: 32080C1218243048606C
          Cell 09 - Address: 00:13:F7:BB:CC:18
                    Channel:1
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1)
                    Quality=24/70  Signal level=-86 dBm
                    Encryption key:on
                    ESSID:"CC16"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 22 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s
                              36 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=000000040c0c21b6
                    Extra: Last beacon: 7128ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 000443433136
                    IE: Unknown: 010582848B962C
                    IE: Unknown: 030101
                    IE: Unknown: 050401020000
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0103
                    IE: Unknown: 32080C1218243048606C
          Cell 10 - Address: 00:1A:70:F7:3E:3F
                    Channel:6
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality=27/70  Signal level=-83 dBm
                    Encryption key:off
                    ESSID:"TXSUNSET"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
                              24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=00000875df467256
                    Extra: Last beacon: 6692ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 0008545853554E534554
                    IE: Unknown: 010882848B962430486C
                    IE: Unknown: 030106
                    IE: Unknown: 050400010000
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0104
                    IE: Unknown: 2F0104
                    IE: Unknown: 32040C121860
                    IE: Unknown: DD090010180201F5000000
          Cell 11 - Address: 00:23:69:E7:61:CC
                    Channel:11
                    Frequency:2.462 GHz (Channel 11)
                    Quality=25/70  Signal level=-85 dBm
                    Encryption key:off
                    ESSID:"linksys"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
                              24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=00000027c070ce4c
                    Extra: Last beacon: 6060ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 00076C696E6B737973
                    IE: Unknown: 010882848B962430486C
                    IE: Unknown: 03010B
                    IE: Unknown: 050400010000
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0104
                    IE: Unknown: 2F0104
                    IE: Unknown: 32040C121860
                    IE: Unknown:
2D1A7C181BFFFF000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown:
3D160B001700000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: DD0E0050F204104A0001101044000101
                    IE: Unknown: DD090010180206F4050000
                    IE: Unknown:
DD180050F2020101000003A4000027A4000042435E0062322F00
                    IE: Unknown:
DD1E00904C337C181BFFFF000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown:
DD1A00904C340B001700000000000000000000000000000000000000



As you can see, it is a mess. It doesn't matter if you know how to do it
or not, that output is crap for finding and selecting the wireless
network I want.

Even without ifconfig, distros have long provided other methods of
configuring networking, because why manually configure you wireless when
a computer can do it for you?

Even if it were not the case that a GUI is much easier and suitable than
the CLI, it is his choice to use what he wants. Your post just screams
troll.

- -- 
Jordan Metzmeier

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