Shutdown and restart not always working - continued

Greg Folkert greg at
Tue Feb 24 19:48:24 CET 2009

On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 18:29 +0000, Chris G wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 07:22:52PM +0100, Christian Dywan wrote:
> > Am Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:55:00 +0000
> > schrieb Chris G <cl at>:
> > 
> > > Well I took a look at the documentation on how this is supposed to
> > > work and I took a look at what actually happens on xubuntu 8.10, with
> > > the following results.
> > 
> > Hey Chris,
> > 
> > did you read this?
> > 
> >
> > 
> > Those are instructions which are commonly given to users asking in the
> > #xfce IRC channel on Freenode. And they are known to work well.
> > 
> Yes, it's the piece I quoted in my E-Mail.
> > It strikes me as a mistake of the package maintainer of Xubuntu if this
> > doesn't work out of the box, though.
> > 
> It works "out of the box" for the installation user via the sudo
> mechanism, however it won't work for other users unless you do some
> configuration. 

You should be able to do the following for group adding for a user (as
root or equivalent) on *buntu and Debian:

	adduser <username> <groupname>

That adds an existing user to an existing group. On my Debian machines I
have adjusted my default group memberships to for "console users" to be:

	cdrom floppy sudo audio video plugdev users netdev powerdev

Of course, I trust my Wife and Daughter to do as I taught them to use
the laptops they have.

Other users I have are not console users (for work), most are remote
users and ssh in and they are only in a couple of groups. One for the
organization they have, another for what product they use and another
for if the have straight shell access vs menu system.
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