problem to configure a dsl connection
galette at tin.it
galette at tin.it
Sat Jun 14 12:34:50 CEST 2008
Dear all
I've a strange problem trying to configure a directly ethernet
modem adsl connection, a connection that do not pass through a router (
a so called "dsl connection")
I can't find a tool to create it. I'm new
of Xfce. I usually use a router connection but I have to test the
router for some problems and I need a dsl connection, for now
What tool
can I use to ?
Thanks
Alessia
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> 1.
xrandr and session (Jean-Christophe)
> 2. Re: NetworkManager or Wifi-
Radar? (Jean-Christophe)
> 3. Re: NetworkManager or Wifi-Radar? (Greg
Folkert)
> 4. Re: xrandr and session (Brian J. Tarricone)
> 5. Re:
NetworkManager or Wifi-Radar? (Grant McWilliams)
> 6. OT: suid
programs vs. sudo access (Re: NetworkManager or
> Wifi-Radar?)
(Brian J. Tarricone)
> 7. Re: NetworkManager or Wifi-Radar? (Greg
Folkert)
> 8. Re: NetworkManager or Wifi-Radar? (Grant McWilliams)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:52:29 +0200
>From: Jean-
Christophe <jc.sid at free.fr>
>Subject: xrandr and session
>To: xfce at xfce.
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>Hello to all.
>Here is my problem:
>I've got a laptop, and when I plug a screen on it, I use xrandr to
>switch my resolutions. This works fine.
>But xfce doesn't reconize it,
and I have then my 800x480 desktop
>(eeepc...) shown on my 17"
configured on 1600x1200 and all the other
>parts are blank. I can move
my cursor on it but xfce refuses to display
>anything there.
>One
solution I found is to do: 'killall xfwm4 & xfwm4'. Then xfce
>reconizes my desktops but xfwm isn't launched with my user's
preferences
>and can't be configured.
>How can I make xfce reconize my
xrandr changes?
>
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:31:01 +0200
>From: Jean-Christophe <jc.
sid at free.fr>
>Subject: Re: NetworkManager or Wifi-Radar?
>To: Xfce at xfce.
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>Message-ID: <48526885.2050204 at free.fr>
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>I found this thread and I could
suggest another soft: wpa_gui, which is
>the most highly capable I
found.
>I made a hotkey launching 'sudo wpa_gui' (it must be launched
as root)
>and added 'ALL ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/wpa_gui' to
sudoers with visudo.
>
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:49:52 -0400
>From: Greg Folkert
<greg at gregfolkert.net>
>Subject: Re: NetworkManager or Wifi-Radar?
>To:
xfce at xfce.org
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>On
Fri, 2008-06-13 at 14:31 +0200, Jean-Christophe wrote:
>> I found this
thread and I could suggest another soft: wpa_gui, which is
>> the most
highly capable I found.
>> I made a hotkey launching 'sudo wpa_gui' (it
must be launched as root)
>> and added 'ALL ALL=NOPASSWD:
/usr/sbin/wpa_gui' to sudoers with visudo.
>
>I know many people hate
SUID programs... but rather than make a grievous
>SUDOERS ENTRY like
that...
>
>Why not make the program SUID and owned by root? Or at least
GUID and
>proper groups memberships for the running user.
>--
>greg at gregfolkert.net
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>Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008
10:48:56 -0700
>From: "Brian J. Tarricone" <bjt23 at cornell.edu>
>Subject: Re: xrandr and session
>To: jc.sid at free.fr, XFCE general
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>Jean-Christophe wrote:
>> Hello to all.
>> Here is my problem:
>> I've
got a laptop, and when I plug a screen on it, I use xrandr to
>>
switch my resolutions. This works fine.
>> But xfce doesn't reconize
it, and I have then my 800x480 desktop
>> (eeepc...) shown on my 17"
configured on 1600x1200 and all the other
>> parts are blank. I can
move my cursor on it but xfce refuses to display
>> anything there.
>>
One solution I found is to do: 'killall xfwm4 & xfwm4'. Then xfce
>>
reconizes my desktops but xfwm isn't launched with my user's
preferences
>> and can't be configured.
>> How can I make xfce
reconize my xrandr changes?
>
>You can't -- Xfce doesn't support the
new 1.2 version of xrandr.
>There's support in xfdesktop in SVN trunk,
but it requires gtk 2.13
>(which I wouldn't recommend installing); not
sure what plans the other
>devs have for their modules (xfwm4, xfce4-
panel, mainly).
>
> -brian
>
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:54:03 -0700
>From: "Grant
McWilliams" <grantmasterflash at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: NetworkManager
or Wifi-Radar?
>To: "XFCE general discussion list" <xfce at xfce.org>
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>gag, cough
sputter. An SUID program is better than a SUDO entry???? I'm
>going to
use this thread for my Linux Host System Security class on Tuesday!
>
>Grant
>
>
>
>On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Greg Folkert
<greg at gregfolkert.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 14:31 +0200,
Jean-Christophe wrote:
>> > I found this thread and I could suggest
another soft: wpa_gui, which is
>> > the most highly capable I found.
>> > I made a hotkey launching 'sudo wpa_gui' (it must be launched as
root)
>> > and added 'ALL ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/wpa_gui' to
sudoers with
>> visudo.
>>
>> I know many people hate SUID programs...
but rather than make a grievous
>> SUDOERS ENTRY like that...
>>
>> Why
not make the program SUID and owned by root? Or at least GUID and
>>
proper groups memberships for the running user.
>> --
>>
greg at gregfolkert.net
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>Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008
12:02:26 -0700
>From: "Brian J. Tarricone" <bjt23 at cornell.edu>
>Subject: OT: suid programs vs. sudo access (Re: NetworkManager or
>
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>Grant McWilliams wrote:
>> gag,
cough sputter. An SUID program is better than a SUDO entry???? I'm
>>
going to use this thread for my Linux Host System Security class on
Tuesday!
>
>It can be, if done properly. A sudo entry to run a
particular app as
>root password-less forces you to rely on sudo
itself being well behaved
>and secure.
>
>A binary with perms set to -
rwsr-x--- and ownership set to root:foo (and
>put users allowed to run
it in group foo) only relies on the OS's
>built-in facilities and is
certainly no less secure than a password-less
>sudo entry. I'd argue
it's more secure.
>
>Though really, the security concerns of using suid
vs. sudo are dwarfed
>by those of running a GUI app as root. wpa_gui
uses Qt, right? Care to
>audit all of Qt for security issues?
>
> -
brian
>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Greg Folkert
<greg at gregfolkert.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 14:31
+0200, Jean-Christophe wrote:
>>>> I found this thread and I could
suggest another soft: wpa_gui, which is
>>>> the most highly capable I
found.
>>>> I made a hotkey launching 'sudo wpa_gui' (it must be
launched as root)
>>>> and added 'ALL ALL=NOPASSWD:
/usr/sbin/wpa_gui' to sudoers with
>>> visudo.
>>>
>>> I know many
people hate SUID programs... but rather than make a grievous
>>>
SUDOERS ENTRY like that...
>>>
>>> Why not make the program SUID and
owned by root? Or at least GUID and
>>> proper groups memberships for
the running user.
>>> --
>>> greg at gregfolkert.net
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>Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:21:48 -0400
>From: Greg Folkert
<greg at gregfolkert.net>
>Subject: Re: NetworkManager or Wifi-Radar?
>To:
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>On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 10:54 -0700, Grant
McWilliams wrote:
>> gag, cough sputter. An SUID program is better than
a SUDO entry????
>> I'm going to use this thread for my Linux Host
System Security class
>> on Tuesday!
>>
>> Grant
>
>Have fun pointing
out the whole reliance on SUDO and other many
>mechanisms. Shoe-horning
in another program named that with a
>possibility to replace the Binary
regardless of it being the right one.
>and doing its bad work.
>
>At
least with the proper groups and proper right assigned to them, you;d
>get MUCH less collateral damage.
>
>Don't forget that, SUID/GUID
programs have their place, this may just be
>one of them.
>
>Come on,
there are always two sides to this stuff. There are other
>alternatives
as well.
>
>> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Greg Folkert
<greg at gregfolkert.net>
>> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 14:31
+0200, Jean-Christophe wrote:
>> > I found this thread and I
could suggest another soft:
>> wpa_gui, which is
>> >
the most highly capable I found.
>> > I made a hotkey launching
'sudo wpa_gui' (it must be
>> launched as root)
>> >
and added 'ALL ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/wpa_gui' to
>>
sudoers with visudo.
>>
>>
>> I know many
people hate SUID programs... but rather than make
>> a grievous
>> SUDOERS ENTRY like that...
>>
>> Why not
make the program SUID and owned by root? Or at least
>> GUID
and
>> proper groups memberships for the running user.
>
>--
>greg at gregfolkert.net
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>>
>>
>> Have fun pointing out
the whole reliance on SUDO and other many
>> mechanisms. Shoe-horning
in another program named that with a
>> possibility to replace the
Binary regardless of it being the right one.
>> and doing its bad work.
>>
>> At least with the proper groups and proper right assigned to
them, you;d
>> get MUCH less collateral damage.
>>
>> Don't forget
that, SUID/GUID programs have their place, this may just be
>> one of
them.
>>
>> Come on, there are always two sides to this stuff. There
are other
>> alternatives as well.
>
>
>:-) As much as I dislike SUDO
at least you have more control and logging
>over what the user does. At
least you get to decide WHO gets to execute
>wpa_gui as root. With SUID
you have nothing, everyone IS root for that app
>for all practical
purposes. SUID needs to go away. I think on my servers I
>wittle it
down to about 9 SUID/SGID binaries left. When I get SELinux policy
>modules created for them they'll be gone.
>
>I realize that only one
major disto and it's community variant uses SELinux
>so that's not a
solution for everyone. I don't know enough about AppArmor to
>know if
it could provide an SUID like Domain Transition decision policy.
>
>If
an SELinux policy was created for wpa_gui that had a wpa_gui_exec_t
>domain and a wpa_gui_t domain that would have permissions to the
relevant
>network interfaces and sockets all you'd need is an allow
policy to allow
>wpa_gui_exec_t to transit to wpa_gui_t and allow
unconfined_t execute
>permissions. The whole thing could be constrained
so that if it were
>exploited it could only be used to edit wpa
settings and nothing more. I
>don't know that much about wpa_gui but if
it reads files then it could be
>forced to read files that it shouldn't
and if it's SUID those files could be
>ANY.
>
>I'm sure this
functionality is also in AppArmor so it would work in
>Mandrake,
Ubuntu, Sun Linux, and SuSE. I don't use most of those so I'm just
>guessing.
>
>Grant
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