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[Erik Harrison]

On 1/11/06, Jasper Huijsmans <jasper at xfce.org> wrote:
> Erik Harrison schreef:
> > On 1/10/06, Andrew Conkling <andrew.conkling at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 1/10/06, Erik Harrison <erikharrison at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On 1/10/06, Andrew Conkling <andrew.conkling at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Not to hijack this thread, but that reminds me of a question I've had
> >>>> for a while: why make this an option for each launcher?  You've mostly
> >>>> answered it here, but it begs another: is there any drawback in
> >>>> "trying" to support startup notification in an app that doesn't
> >>>> support it?  I didn't know about some apps not supporting it, and I've
> >>>> put it on every launcher and menu item I've ever created without
> >>>> noticeable problem.  I think I'd like to request that on bugzilla,
> >>>> since just having the global option seems sufficient, but since we're
> >>>> talking about it here....
> >>> I mentioned that once. I think the only objection is that the way it
> >>> works is the app alerts the window manager when the app is done
> >>> "Starting". With this in place, turning it on for all launchers would
> >>> cause the alert that the app is starting to run until the window
> >>> manager time out. (30 seconds I believe)
> >> Ah, this makes more sense.  I have seen that before where the
> >> indicator just keeps on spinning (given my choice in cursor) even
> >> after the app has started.  Is there any way to check for the presence
> >> of startup notification, something like "If we get a signal from this
> >> app, we'll show the busy cursor, otherwise not at all"?  (Honestly, I
> >> confess I don't know much about how this works, even though I've
> >> worked in GTK+ 2.6.)  Of course, I understand that even if it were
> >> possible to support something like that, it may just support outdated
> >> software, and if that's the case, I'm with you, Olivier!
> >
> > I think there is a solution to it now. Assuming a launcher is built
> > from a .desktop file (in the case of using the appfinder widget from
> > the panel), then the .desktop file declares support for SN or not.
> >
> > Beyond that, I don't believe it is possible to check. Basically, the
> > protocol doesn't allow the app to startup and say "Yo! Doing the
> > startup thing" (thus letting us know it supports SN). The rationale is
> > the app is starting up, thus there could be a potentially significant
> > delay in the message which tells us startup is beginning. Thus
> > delaying the startup alert, killing the whole point.
> >
> > Jasper, thoughts?
>
> Many. But not necessarily on this subject ;-)
>
> Hmm, how about turning it on by default? That might be an acceptable
> intermediate solution?

I'm a little concerned about it spinning on and on for apps that
launch quick and don't support SN.

But, tell you what. That's what SVN is for. Try it, and see the
feedback, perhaps

>
>         Jasper
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Erik

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