session manager

Jack Kern jack_kern at operamail.com
Thu Mar 4 19:44:21 CET 2004 

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problem and my suggestions.)

Why not just try to use my ~/.xfce4/xinitrc (  *** My ~/.xfce4/xinitrc: 
below) and start things as I described?  I know how to read these 
scripts (startxfce4, xinitrc, etc.) ; so, I may be taking a lot for 
granted if you are not familiar with shell scripts. 

Is your ~/.xfce4/xinitrc  ececutable?

jkern at boat:~$ ls -l .xfce4/xinitrc
-rwxr--r--    1 jkern    jkern         640 2004-02-29 20:39 .xfce4/xinitrc

Does the following command output look like this?  (N.B.  lines may be 
wrapped.)

jkern at boat:~$ ps -ef | grep "\-client"
jkern      618     1  0 08:35 tty1     00:00:00 /usr/bin/xftaskbar4 
--sm-client-id 11c0a80002000107741875300000019960002
jkern      620     1  0 08:35 tty1     00:00:00 xfdesktop --sm-client-id 
11c0a80002000107741074500000010610003
jkern      621     1  0 08:35 tty1     00:00:00 xfwm4 --daemon 
--sm-client-id 11c0a80002000107741074500000010610001
jkern      623     1  0 08:35 tty1     00:00:27 xfce4-panel 
--sm-client-id 11c0a80002000107741074500000010610005
jkern      625     1  0 08:35 tty1     00:00:02 smproxy -clientId 
11c0a80002000107741074500000010610000 -restore /home/jkern/.prxWWB9M5



Mark Houlder wrote:

> I start it using qingy (login manager), or directly from console with 
> 'startxfce4'
>
> although if i directly run
>
>    xinit .xfce4/xinitrc
>
> (xinitrc amended with 'exec /usr/bin/xfce4-session' at the end)
>
> it makes no difference (i use xinitrc copied from /etc/xfce4/xinitrc, 
> which differs from yours i think)
>
>
>
> there does seem to be the relevant info in the session file, which is 
> updated every time i login out, but it's never recreated in xfce
>
>
>
> Jack Kern wrote:
>
>> Mark Houlder wrote:
>>
>>> i know this isn't stable yet, but as many people seem to be using it 
>>> thought i'd ask; i downloaded and installed it yesterday and had it 
>>> working fine for a few hours, but now it's stopped working. whenever 
>>> starting xfce, nothing to do with the session is retained - no 
>>> previous apps opened, no terminals opened, or anything. the only 
>>> thing that does happen is when i open a terminal, it sometimes opens 
>>> in the previous location (but without the right geom settings). i've 
>>> reinstalled the session manager, but that didn't help. the 
>>> close-down dialog still appears with the 'save session' box ticked 
>>> (i set it to do that automatically from the setup dialog), and when 
>>> loading xfce the splash box appears, but apart from that nothing 
>>> happens.
>>>
>>> any ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>> I seems to work perfectly for me but I have customized some startup 
>> files.
>>
>> How are you starting XFce?  I start X with a  "exec 
>> /usr/bin/startxfce4"  which executes my ~/.xfce4/xinitrc, which has 
>> to be made executable:
>>
>> jkern at boat:~$ ls -l .xfce4/xinitrc
>> -rwxr--r--    1 jkern    jkern         640 2004-02-29 20:39 
>> .xfce4/xinitrc
>>
>> ~/.xfce4/xinitrc calls  /usr/bin/xfce4-session:
>>
>> jkern at boat:~$ tail -n 3 .xfce4/xinitrc
>>
>> exec /usr/bin/xfce4-session
>>
>> My ~/.xfce4/xinitrc is partly based on 
>> /etc/xfce4/xinitrc.xfce4-session.  The whole ~/.xfce4/xinitrc is 
>> pasted in below. ***
>>
>>>
>>> ps. where are the session details stored? i use tmpfs for my /tmp 
>>> directory, if that makes a difference (although sessions don't 
>>> remain even without rebooting)
>>>
>>>
>> jkern at boat:~$ ls -l .xfce4/sessions/
>> total 8
>> -rw-r--r--    1 jkern    jkern        2896 2004-02-26 22:47 xfsm-boat
>> -rw-r--r--    1 jkern    jkern        1356 2004-02-26 22:47 
>> xfwm4-11c0a80002000107741074500000010610001
>>
>> jkern at boat:~$ cat 
>> .xfce4/sessions/xfwm4-11c0a80002000107741074500000010610001 
>> [CLIENT_ID] 11c0a80002000107741074500000010610005
>>  [CLIENT_LEADER] 0xe00001
>>  [RES_NAME] xfce4-panel
>>  [RES_CLASS] Xfce4-panel
>>  [WM_NAME] XFce Panel
>>  [WM_COMMAND] (3) "xfce4-panel" "--sm-client-id" 
>> "11c0a800020001077410745000000
>> 10610005"
>>  [GEOMETRY] (122,714,759,54)
>>  [GEOMETRY-MAXIMIZED] (181,822,775,42)
>>  [DESK] 0
>>  [FLAGS] 0x1000000
>> [CLIENT] 0x1200030
>>  [CLIENT_LEADER] 0x1200001
>>  [RES_NAME] Gecko
>>  [RES_CLASS] Mozilla-bin
>>  [WM_NAME] Local Debian Start Page - Mozilla
>>  [WM_COMMAND] (1) "/usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin"
>>  [GEOMETRY] (69,52,890,683)
>>  [GEOMETRY-MAXIMIZED] (0,0,890,673)
>>  [DESK] 0
>>  [FLAGS] 0x20000000
>> [CLIENT] 0xa00002
>>  [CLIENT_ID] 11c0a80002000107741875300000019960002
>>  [CLIENT_LEADER] 0xa00001
>>  [RES_NAME] xftaskbar4
>>  [RES_CLASS] Xftaskbar4
>>  [WM_NAME] Task List
>>  [WM_COMMAND] (3) "/usr/bin/xftaskbar4" "--sm-client-id" 
>> "11c0a8000200010774187
>> 5300000019960002"
>>  [GEOMETRY] (0,0,1024,5)
>>  [GEOMETRY-MAXIMIZED] (0,0,1152,1)
>>  [DESK] 0
>>  [FLAGS] 0x1000000
>> [CLIENT] 0xc00002
>>  [CLIENT_ID] 11c0a80002000107741074500000010610003
>>  [CLIENT_LEADER] 0xc00001
>>  [RES_NAME] xfdesktop
>>  [RES_CLASS] Xfdesktop
>>  [WM_NAME] Desktop
>>  [WM_COMMAND] (3) "xfdesktop" "--sm-client-id" 
>> "11c0a80002000107741074500000010
>> 610003"
>>  [GEOMETRY] (0,0,1152,864)
>>  [GEOMETRY-MAXIMIZED] (0,0,1152,864)
>>  [DESK] 1
>>  [FLAGS] 0x1000000jkern at boat:~$
>>
>>
>> *** My ~/.xfce4/xinitrc:
>>
>> cat .xfce4/xinitrc
>> #!/bin/sh
>> # jack hacked Wed Feb 25 18:03:31 EST 2004
>> xsetroot -solid black -cursor_name watch
>>
>> # Start stuff from ~/Desktop/Autostart directory, if it exists
>>
>> if [ -d "$HOME/Desktop/Autostart" ]; then
>>  for i in `ls -1 ${HOME}/Desktop/Autostart/ 2>/dev/null`; do
>>    if [ -x $HOME/Desktop/Autostart/$i ]; then
>>      $HOME/Desktop/Autostart/$i &
>>    fi
>>  done
>> fi
>>
>> # Setup environment
>>
>> if [ -f $HOME/.Xresources ]; then
>>        xrdb -merge $HOME/.Xresources
>> fi
>>
>> if [ -f $HOME/.bash_profile ]; then
>>        . $HOME/.bash_profile
>> fi
>>
>> if [ -f $HOME/.Xmodmap ]; then
>>        xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap
>> fi
>>
>> # Finally, launch XFce4 using xfce4-session
>>
>> exec /usr/bin/xfce4-session
>>
>>
>>
>> I am running:
>>
>> Linux boat 2.6.4-rc1 #2 Tue Mar 2 23:35:10 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux  
>> --  Debian unstable
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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