BTW, xfce releases put execution parameters in .../xfce/xinitrc that are no longer valid for xscreensaver - something "-lock...". I forgot to write down the exact wording. I always have to remove this to get xscreensaver to run. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla