Taskbar suggestion & some problems with XFCE from CVS (.18)

MaT mat at razdva.cz
Sun Jul 7 15:30:27 CEST 2002


> Mat,

> The taskbar is in the CVS, it will be part of xfce 3.8.18 :-)

> Cheers,
> Olivier.

I know, I've already compiled from CVS... :-)

But I have problems witch czech fonts in menus...

BTW where I can except the official release of 3.8.18?

MaT


> On Sat, 2002-07-06 at 15:58, MaT wrote:
>> Hello there...
>> 
>> I'm experimenting with Linux for some months and I found XFCE about
>> 2-3 months ago and I'm very happy with it ('coz of IBM 5x86 on 150 MHz
>> and similar hw :-). There are some concepts that I have to fight
>> against - for example - I don't like the panel much. And I was missing
>> something like taskbar... Instead of big ugly icons on the right
>> side... In previous week, I found interesting program - it's called
>> fspanel. I also found some other version - mde-fspanel (try Google, I
>> don't remember address now, I'm offline now and my linux box is now
>> off :-). It makes a small taskbar, program has icons on it, it also
>> have 4 buttons to switch among desktops and also a clock... I was
>> using it for some time as a complement to XFCE and I was happy. :-)
>> This week, I've found this mailing list - and it's archive. I realised
>> that there is the taskbar feature in XFCE - so I did "rpm -e xfce" and
>> installed it from CVS... For the first time, I was not able to find
>> it, I was trying to find some checkbox in configuration, then I red
>> the archive more thoroughly... :-)
>> 
>> But... Why I'm writing this (except of joy from XFCE - I wish to thank
>> to all people arround it - it's really nice environment :o) - i think
>> that this "fspanel" can still be inspirating for the authors of this
>> taskbar. I like the icons much. :-) You could think that it is some
>> bloatware - but - the source for fspanel is about 20 kB! And what is
>> even better - the resulting binary is only 10 kB! So I think, that
>> these icons cannot be a such problem to implement and it cannot add
>> too much bloat in existing code...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> And now to one problem that I currently have with running the new XFCE
>> version... When I found it for the first time, I was very happy that
>> it can work wich czech locales very easily (it is also translated in
>> czech - it isn't important as much for me - I understand English well
>> (better than writing, maybe :-) and sometimes it's more consistent to
>> have some command in English than in some strange translations :-) -
>> but I liked that it can display special czech characters in - for
>> example - window titles and menus... Yes, it is about support for
>> international fonts...
>> 
>> So - for assurance - I set all fonts to "...-iso8859-2" and I was
>> happy - everything worked. But now, I have this new version compiled
>> (before that - I have the last RPM from XFCE website) - and although
>> I've set all fonts in configuration that I've found to iso-8859-2 too,
>> I can see only some "strewn tea" (as we call it in Czech republic :-)
>> instead of right characteres like "c with wedge" or "e with wedge"...
>> 
>> I know, these czech characters and encodings are the worst evil - and
>> I can only thank to Mr. Jan Hus who invented this in czech language...
>> 
>> He was burned in Konstanz on 6th July 1415, I can have celebrate an
>> anniversary today... :o)
>> 
>> But - is there something I can do to display correct czech characters
>> in menu again?
>> 
>> I think if it can be related to use of antialiasing - in the RPM, i
>> think that it wasn't there (and also - the antialiasing support after
>> compilation was also one of the reason to compile my own version)...
>> 
>> But I can't find why it can interfere this way - fonts are the same -
>> if they are not hardcoded somewhere in sources... So - maybe it is a
>> bug... And maybe there is nobody in this list who could point to this
>> in the past. :-)
>> 
>> And again - i really like XFCE though... It's nice and incredibly fast
>> on my machines (other one is Intel 233 MMX :-)...
>> 
>> MaT
>> 
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