[Xfce-i18n] Fw: Re: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-weather-plugin 0.8.1 released (Harald Judt)

Harald Judt h.judt at gmx.at
Tue Aug 7 14:07:15 CEST 2012

Hi Raphael,

Am 07.08.2012 12:40, schrieb Raphael Groner:
> Beginn der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:
> Datum: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:17:26 +0200
> Von: Raphael Groner <raphgro at web.de>
> An: xfce-announce at xfce.org
> Betreff: Re: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-weather-plugin 0.8.1 released (Harald Judt)
> Hi Harald,
> I appreciate your work and your motivation. Thanks a lot.
> But why do you release something that is not fully translated?
> Some distributions have packaged it already. It doesn't look good when
> there is something like Denglish or other mixture of two languages.

Looking at the git repository, that has also been the case in the past, 
e.g. many languages have been added/updated a short time after 0.7.4 has 
been released. Besides, how should I know on which translations to wait 
for (and how long) before doing the release? Is there any standard 
procedure? Of course I can write a mail to i18n that a release is going 
to happen in a few days if that is what you want.

As the plugin is still very much work-in-progress, I plan to do releases 
more often or at least stick to the current frequency, because in the 
current state of development quite a lot of bug fixes will be necessary, 
and I guess it's no fun for package maintainers to play catch-up or 
back-port patches. I guess distributions who prefer more stable packages 
will delay updates a bit longer anyway.

Another reason is that more people will be able to test new features and 
report problems or share their opinions on the way things are 
implemented. It could mean a lot more work if that happens later on. 
Most people will not want to compile their own package from git, so the 
only way to get it tested is to release new packages. (Not that I don't 
do my own tests before each release, but there may be bugs I cannot 

To conclude, even if some version has not been translated by the time I 
do the release, users should not have to wait very long for an updated 
version in their language.

For 0.8.2, my plans are to make the plugin as stable as possible:
- finally add debugging code
- fix bugs that cause crashes or make the plugin not work correctly
- GUI fine-tuning
- include updated translations

- re-work configuration dialog
- fix GTK style issues

> Honestly, the feature with the enhanced tooltip looks very nice but
> hits the limits what Xfce's called "lightweight".
> What do others think?
> - R.

Please define "lightweight". It is meant primarily as a replacement for 
the scrollbox which users will be able to hide in a future version to 
save valuable space in the panel (feature request). You're welcome to 
participate and state ideas for improvements. The more precise, the 
better ;-)


`Experience is the best teacher.'

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