Anybody interested in joining xfwm 4 devel ?

[Guido Draheim]

Es schrieb Jasper Huijsmans:
> 
> At 12:49 PM 3/22/02, you wrote:
> 
> >I wasn't aware of xsettings so far (even that I knew many ways to do it),
> >and IYAM an attempt for desktop standard sounds to be the Right Way.
> >Here's the link: http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/xsettings.html
> 
> GTK2 uses it I think (or can use it at least, I haven't really looked into
> it much).

hmmm, there isn't much to be read about that on the net, but it
seems there is gtksetting and GdkEventSetting. The gtksetting has
an entry to parse gdkeventsettings, so the glue to hook into that
event loop should be very small. And there is a message that says
that gtkrc parsing should be made indirectly, so it emits gdksettings
that are handled in gtk. Nothing specific however, could still be just
rumour.

> 
> And if I may ask, what does IYAM stand for ?
"if you asked me" ( http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?Acronym=IYAM )

> 
> >this is another argument to change the module/desktop protocol to the
> >ones being standardized. Note that the new wm-spec supersedes the gnome
> >protocol and will be used by both gnome and kde managers, it might not
> >have been right to change that xfce3 but xfce4 is a good point to
> >switch.
> >
> >cheers, guido
> >
> >Es schrieb Jasper Huijsmans:
> > >
> > > Right, I have been thinking a bit about how things could work (in general
> > > terms, no implementation).
> > >
> > > XFwm
> > > * window management
> > > * session management
> > > * XSETTINGS manager
> > > * xfwm/xfce settings manager (applying styles to everything)
> > > * Completely work with extended window manager hints
> > >
> > > Configuration
> > > * xfstylemgr works on xml file(s)
> > > * notification of changes through x client messages on root or on invisible
> > > xfwm window (like xsettings)
> > > * xfwm applies changes to gtkrc file / xresources / etc.
> > > * libxfsettings provides functions for reading and writing configuration
> > > files as well as notification
> > >
> > > Modules
> > > * many modules can use window manager hints: pagers, taskbars, icon boxes,
> > > sound module.
> > > * panel can communicate through xclient messages ("_XFWM_SHUTDOWN",
> > > "_XFWM_RESTART", ...)
> > >
> > > Convenience library (libxfce-common)
> > > * executing commands (through g_spawn_* I think)
> > > * file open/save dialog
> > > * other dialogs ?
> > > * image handling. Since GTK2 uses gdk-pixbuf already for it's icons, it
> > > would make sense to use it exclusively,
> > >    but there may be problems connected to it (I remember Alan saying
> > > something about that).
> > >
> > > Panel
> > > * how about making the buttons either a 'normal button' or an applet
> > > (through gtk_plug perhaps), so that you can
> > >    choose between running a command or a number of plugins: clock,
> > > calendar, mailcheck, trashcan, etc. CDE
> > >    has something like this, doesn't it?
> > >
> > > These are just some thoughts I had. This is as always without being
> > > hindered by any real knowledge on the subject ;-)
> > >
> > > For examples of working with the window manager hints we could look at
> > > metacity (window manager based on GTK2) - this also uses glib mainloop
> > > functionality that might be interesting - and libwnck from GNOME.
> > >
> > > Does this make sense at all?
> > >
> > >          Jasper
> > >
> > > At 08:52 AM 3/22/02, you wrote:
> > > >I would really like to help as much as I can. I don't think I'm qualified
> > > >to say much about real design issues, but I sure like to comment on other
> > > >people's ideas ;-)
> > > >
> > > >I'll be away next week (skiing in France), so I won't be able to
> > > >communicate with you then. The ports to GTK2 of some of the utilities are
> > > >working for me, but they are still based on the old configuration files
> > > >and mechanisms.
> > > >
> > > >         Jasper
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >At 06:08 PM 3/21/02, you wrote:
> > > >>Hi all,
> > > >>
> > > >>Well, the title says it all... Let me know.
> > > >>
> > > >>Cheers,
> > > >>--
> > > >>Olivier               <fourdan at xfce.org>            http://www.xfce.org
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