From j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl Sun Jul 7 09:16:15 2002 From: j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl (Jasper Huijsmans) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 09:16:15 +0200 Subject: xfce --prefix behaviour Message-ID: <20020707091615.7221ab12.j.b.huijsmans@hetnet.nl> Hi, I just noticed that when you use ./configure --prefix=/usr in xfce you still get the data and the configuration in /usr/local. This doesn't seem right to me. greetings, Jasper PS I fixed a number of issues in xfce4 and it should be a lot more stable now. Also it now saves mailcheck plugin preferences. From edscott at imp.mx Sun Jul 7 15:56:22 2002 From: edscott at imp.mx (edscott wilson garcia) Date: 07 Jul 2002 08:56:22 -0500 Subject: xfce --prefix behaviour In-Reply-To: <20020707091615.7221ab12.j.b.huijsmans@hetnet.nl> References: <20020707091615.7221ab12.j.b.huijsmans@hetnet.nl> Message-ID: <1026050216.8448.10.camel@sagitario.eco.imp.mx> El dom, 07-07-2002 a las 02:16, Jasper Huijsmans escribi?: > Hi, > > I just noticed that when you use ./configure --prefix=/usr in xfce you > still get the data and the configuration in /usr/local. This doesn't > seem right to me. I agree with you. The locale dir is another one that does not get set. Instead you have to specify the following options (which could be made relative to --prefix unless specified on the configure command line). --with-data-dir=DIR Set XFce data directory to DIR --with-conf-dir=DIR Set XFce configuration directory to DIR --with-locale-dir=DIR Set XFce locale directory to DIR --enable-gtk-engine=PFX path to GTK engine libraries Edscott From mb at imsc.net Mon Jul 15 16:42:04 2002 From: mb at imsc.net (Mike Bressem) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:42:04 +0200 (CEST) Subject: strange behaviour of xfplay Message-ID: hi, xfsound crashes after a few played sound on solaris with dual head. does anyone know about that problem ? kind regards, mike -- Mike Bressem Internet Management GmbH ============ Auf der Weih 2 35745 Herborn - Germany Never underestimate the power Telefon +49 2772 4723 - 0 of stupid people in large groups. Telefax +49 2772 4723 - 29 From michael at spyonit.com Mon Jul 15 16:50:43 2002 From: michael at spyonit.com (Michael T. Mosier) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:50:43 -0500 Subject: xftree and xfdiff Message-ID: <20020715095043.5f4ad590.michael@spyonit.com> Hello all, It seems that for xftree between 3.8.14c and 3.8.16 the ability to select two files and send them to xfdiff together stopped working. Only one makes it to xfdiff instead of both. Since this doesn't seem to be corrected yet in the current cvs, I thought I'd send a patch. I'm not sure of the preferred format, so here's my attempt. Mike -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: xftree.patch Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1146 bytes Desc: not available URL: From klemmerj at webtrek.com Thu Jul 18 19:27:25 2002 From: klemmerj at webtrek.com (Joe Klemmer) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:27:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Interesting "error" message Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm running 3.8.18 off of Edscott's daily rpm build of CVS (made on 7/17). Life is good but I geep getting a strange error pop up in the subprocess diag window - /home/klemmerj/.gtkrc:231: error: invalid string constant "xfcebar_taskbar4", expected valid string constant It doesn't seem to cause any problems, just pop up and complain. I figured someone would like to know. - -- Attention all planets of the Solar Federation. We have assumed control. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9NvqgHeWRPx8OIHARAmT5AJ0V37YD67zcTmdYEc6p511dGk8mwQCeK/8e 1byzkyEoZpYkAtRM1JwQeoY= =VgFt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fourdan at xfce.org Sun Jul 21 14:07:07 2002 From: fourdan at xfce.org (Olivier Fourdan) Date: 21 Jul 2002 14:07:07 +0200 Subject: [Fwd: feedback] Message-ID: <1027253228.1113.8.camel@localhost> One of the most positive feedback I've got so far ;-) So I thought I should share it with you... Cheers, -- Olivier http://www.xfce.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------- XFce is a lightweight desktop environment for various *NIX systems. Designed for productivity, it loads and executes applications fast, while conserving system resources. XFce is all free software, released under GNU General Public License. Available from http://www.xfce.org -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Xavier MAILLARD Subject: feedback Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:42:53 +0200 Size: 3617 URL: From huysmans at users.sourceforge.net Sun Jul 21 14:18:34 2002 From: huysmans at users.sourceforge.net (Jasper Huijsmans) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:18:34 +0200 Subject: [Fwd: feedback] In-Reply-To: <1027253228.1113.8.camel@localhost> References: <1027253228.1113.8.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20020721141834.77cbb6c9.huysmans@users.sourceforge.net> On 21 Jul 2002 14:07:07 +0200 Olivier Fourdan wrote: > One of the most positive feedback I've got so far ;-) > Have you asked this guy to join the mailing list? If only to send messages like these ones in a while ;-) > So I thought I should share it with you... > > Cheers, > -- > Olivier > http://www.xfce.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- XFce is a lightweight desktop environment for various *NIX > systems. Designed for productivity, it loads and executes > applications fast, while conserving system resources. XFce is all > free software, released under GNU General Public License. Available > from http://www.xfce.org > From huysmans at users.sourceforge.net Sun Jul 21 22:27:37 2002 From: huysmans at users.sourceforge.net (Jasper Huijsmans) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:27:37 +0200 Subject: [Fwd: feedback] In-Reply-To: References: <1027253228.1113.8.camel@localhost> <20020721141834.77cbb6c9.huysmans@users.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: <20020721222737.43762f31.huysmans@users.sourceforge.net> On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:12:39 +0200 Xavier MAILLARD wrote: > Jasper Huijsmans disait r?cemment que > : > > > On 21 Jul 2002 14:07:07 +0200 > > Olivier Fourdan wrote: > > > >> One of the most positive feedback I've got so far ;-) > >> > > > > Have you asked this guy to join the mailing list? > > No need to do that. When I like a project and want to support it, I > automatically check for ML and I often have a look at its ML archives. > Well, welcome to XFce. > > If only to send messages like these ones in a while ;-) > > Eh eh, I just gave up my WindowMaker last night and I do not have any > regrets :) Hope this will continue as I consider this wm as THE WM for > GNU/Linux (and maybe GNU/Hurd) ! KDE/Gnome couple just need to pray to > prevent your project to be in the starlight otherwise they will loose > :) > > Good job guys ! > > See ya > > zeDek > Thanks for the encouragement. Jasper From huysmans at users.sourceforge.net Wed Jul 24 10:57:22 2002 From: huysmans at users.sourceforge.net (Jasper Huijsmans) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:57:22 +0200 Subject: Can we release 3.8.18? Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20020724105233.009ed100@mail.home.nl> Hi all, I was wondering (while trying to find an excuse not to work) if there is anything holding us back to do a release with the new taskbar code. It's a real nice addition and many people seem to use it already. Are there any known problems or missing features that would prevent us to do a release? Personally I have no idea, because I run xfwm4/xfce4 exclusively now. Any opinions? greetings, Jasper From dwijnants at askalix.com Wed Jul 24 10:58:36 2002 From: dwijnants at askalix.com (David Wijnants) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:58:36 +0100 Subject: Can we release 3.8.18? References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020724105233.009ed100@mail.home.nl> Message-ID: <3D3E6C3C.7A354D28@askalix.com> I second that. Jasper Huijsmans wrote: > I was wondering (while trying to find an excuse not to work) if there is > anything holding us back to do a release with the new taskbar code. It's a > real nice addition and many people seem to use it already. From klemmerj at webtrek.com Wed Jul 24 13:47:43 2002 From: klemmerj at webtrek.com (Joe Klemmer) Date: 24 Jul 2002 07:47:43 -0400 Subject: Can we release 3.8.18? In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020724105233.009ed100@mail.home.nl> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020724105233.009ed100@mail.home.nl> Message-ID: <1027511264.12294.85.camel@emperor> On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 04:57, Jasper Huijsmans wrote: > I was wondering (while trying to find an excuse not to work) if there is > anything holding us back to do a release with the new taskbar code. It's a > real nice addition and many people seem to use it already. > > Are there any known problems or missing features that would prevent us to do > a release? Personally I have no idea, because I run xfwm4/xfce4 exclusively > now. > > Any opinions? I posted this very question a little while ago and also posted what might be a very minor bug. The bug is that whenever an app ends and it's window closes the subprocess diagnostic window pops up with - /home/klemmerj/.gtkrc:231: error: invalid string constant "xfcebar_taskbar4", expected valid string constant This doesn't seem to actually hurt anything. I commented the line (#231) out of my ~/.gtkrc and the message goes away, obviously. This is happening with Edscott's daily rpm build of CVS, specifically the one built on 7/17. I have not tried any of the newer ones yet. On a side note... I know sometimes I'm paranoid, and I make allowances for it, but lately I am feeling a little more so. I have posted messages in the XFce lists and to Olivier directly but it seems like either they aren't being seen or they are, let's say being given a lower priority. Hopefully I haven't honked anyone off, especially Olivier. If I did I didn't mean to, honest. For the record, should I ever say or do something to offend or hurt and anger anyone please let me know. There's a very good chance that I haven't the slightest clue what I did. And I know from experience that subtle (and blatant) hints don't work well with me. Just come out and tell me, off list OC. -- Attention all planets of the Solar Federation. We have assumed control. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fourdan at xfce.org Wed Jul 24 14:13:05 2002 From: fourdan at xfce.org (Olivier Fourdan) Date: 24 Jul 2002 14:13:05 +0200 Subject: Can we release 3.8.18? In-Reply-To: <1027511264.12294.85.camel@emperor> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020724105233.009ed100@mail.home.nl> <1027511264.12294.85.camel@emperor> Message-ID: <1027512815.22019.3.camel@olivier.anfora> Joe, (And this also apply to anybody else) I am very busy, all the time, and although I read my mails I don't necessarily reply to all of them. Please don't take any offense for that. It doesn't mean that I don't pay attention to them. Most of the time, if I don't reply a mail, it's because I'm busy coding ;-) Cheers, Olivier. > On a side note... I know sometimes I'm paranoid, and I make allowances > for it, but lately I am feeling a little more so. I have posted > messages in the XFce lists and to Olivier directly but it seems like > either they aren't being seen or they are, let's say being given a lower > priority. Hopefully I haven't honked anyone off, especially Olivier. > If I did I didn't mean to, honest. For the record, should I ever say or > do something to offend or hurt and anger anyone please let me know. > There's a very good chance that I haven't the slightest clue what I > did. And I know from experience that subtle (and blatant) hints don't > work well with me. Just come out and tell me, off list OC. > > > > -- > Attention all planets of the Solar Federation. > We have assumed control. -- Olivier http://www.xfce.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------- XFce is a lightweight desktop environment for various *NIX systems. Designed for productivity, it loads and executes applications fast, while conserving system resources. XFce is all free software, released under GNU General Public License. Available from http://www.xfce.org From huysmans at users.sourceforge.net Wed Jul 24 14:17:34 2002 From: huysmans at users.sourceforge.net (Jasper Huijsmans) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:17:34 +0200 Subject: Can we release 3.8.18? In-Reply-To: <1027511264.12294.85.camel@emperor> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020724105233.009ed100@mail.home.nl> <1027511264.12294.85.camel@emperor> Message-ID: <20020724141734.72d7e8b4.huysmans@users.sourceforge.net> On 24 Jul 2002 07:47:43 -0400 Joe Klemmer wrote: > On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 04:57, Jasper Huijsmans wrote: > > > I was wondering (while trying to find an excuse not to work) if > > there is anything holding us back to do a release with the new > > taskbar code. It's a real nice addition and many people seem to use > > it already. > > > > Are there any known problems or missing features that would prevent > > us to do a release? Personally I have no idea, because I run > > xfwm4/xfce4 exclusively now. > > > > Any opinions? > > I posted this very question a little while ago and also posted I saw it, but I didn't feel I could make a comment, since I never used the taskbar-enabled xfce. I wanted to put a reference to it in my mail, but I forgot ;-) > what > might be a very minor bug. The bug is that whenever an app ends and > it's window closes the subprocess diagnostic window pops up with - > > /home/klemmerj/.gtkrc:231: error: invalid string constant > "xfcebar_taskbar4", expected valid string constant > > This doesn't seem to actually hurt anything. I commented the line > (#231) out of my ~/.gtkrc and the message goes away, obviously. This > is happening with Edscott's daily rpm build of CVS, specifically the > one built on 7/17. I have not tried any of the newer ones yet. > I was hoping Marcin could answer this question. Or Olivier. It seems to have something to do with the custom .gtkrc created by xfce. Either Marcin or Olivier added this support for special taskbar customization. > On a side note... I know sometimes I'm paranoid, and I make > allowances > for it, but lately I am feeling a little more so. I have posted > messages in the XFce lists and to Olivier directly but it seems like > either they aren't being seen or they are, let's say being given a > lower priority. Hopefully I haven't honked anyone off, especially > Olivier. If I did I didn't mean to, honest. For the record, should I > ever say or do something to offend or hurt and anger anyone please let > me know. There's a very good chance that I haven't the slightest clue > what I did. And I know from experience that subtle (and blatant) > hints don't work well with me. Just come out and tell me, off list > OC. > > > I can't think of anything, but then again I'm not easily offended ;-) Jasper > -- > Attention all planets of the Solar Federation. > We have assumed control. > From edscott at imp.mx Wed Jul 24 15:01:39 2002 From: edscott at imp.mx (edscott wilson garcia) Date: 24 Jul 2002 08:01:39 -0500 Subject: Can we release 3.8.18? In-Reply-To: <1027511264.12294.85.camel@emperor> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020724105233.009ed100@mail.home.nl> <1027511264.12294.85.camel@emperor> Message-ID: <1027515701.1486.61.camel@sagitario.eco.imp.mx> On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 06:47, Joe Klemmer wrote: > > This doesn't seem to actually hurt anything. I commented the line > (#231) out of my ~/.gtkrc and the message goes away, obviously. This is > happening with Edscott's daily rpm build of CVS, specifically the one > built on 7/17. I have not tried any of the newer ones yet. About a week or so ago I changed the rpm build to do a --enable-taskbar by default. Also, I switched the server to another box to upgrade to OS. I believe everything is working okay at http://linux.imp.mx/cvs-tmp but if you notice something that I might have missed, let me know. I'm also planning to set up automatic rpm builds of xfce4 and xfwm4 and other gtk2 modules as they become available ---I need about 30 hrs. of free time to finish xfsamba and fix some bugs in the xfdiff gtk2 versions. OTH, this is OT but I don't know who to ask. If you have a RAID array built as /dev/md0 and you want to mount it on a different box that already has a running /dev/md0 (which cannot be stopped, since it is the system disk), does anybody have a clue on how to mount the troublesome RAID array with a different /dev/md device? Just changing the raidtab configuration does not seem to work. Any help or pointers to the correct place to ask will be greatly appreciated. Edscott From huysmans at users.sourceforge.net Thu Jul 25 13:56:01 2002 From: huysmans at users.sourceforge.net (Jasper Huijsmans) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:56:01 +0200 Subject: Can we release 3.8.18? In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020724105233.009ed100@mail.home.nl> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20020725132708.009f0e60@mail.home.nl> At 10:57 AM 7/24/02 +0200, you wrote: >Hi all, > >I was wondering (while trying to find an excuse not to work) if there is >anything holding us back to do a release with the new taskbar code. It's a >real nice addition and many people seem to use it already. > >Are there any known problems or missing features that would prevent us to do >a release? Personally I have no idea, because I run xfwm4/xfce4 exclusively >now. > >Any opinions? > >greetings, > Jasper > Is it the holiday season or what? Two responses in to days to a request for release is not a sign of vitality for a project. I guess lack of time is a valid reason for not doing a release. I certainly can't blame anyone, since I have no time at all and haven't done anything on xfce-stable in months. Still I think it would be a good idea to get the taskbar-enabled xfce released. Maybe we just need more developers? There don't seem to be any show-stopping bugs. Joe's problem with the gtkrc file looks like an easy fix (but somebody will have to fix it of course). Alternatively somebody could port the taskbar to xfce4, turn my xfce4 code into something releasable and we do an "XFce Desktop Environment XP Beta 1" release soon. But I guess that is wishfull thinking. Jasper >_______________________________________________ >Xfce-dev mailing list >Xfce-dev at moongroup.com >http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk Thu Jul 25 14:05:38 2002 From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:05:38 +0100 Subject: Can we release 3.8.18? In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020725132708.009f0e60@mail.home.nl> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020724105233.009ed100@mail.home.nl> <5.1.1.6.0.20020725132708.009f0e60@mail.home.nl> Message-ID: <20020725130538.34b89d15.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:56:01 +0200 Jasper Huijsmans wrote: > Still I think it would be a good idea to get the taskbar-enabled xfce > released. Maybe we just need more developers? There don't seem to be any > show-stopping bugs. Joe's problem with the gtkrc file looks like an easy fix > (but somebody will have to fix it of course). One very good reason for a release is the problem that 3.8.16 has showstoppers on Solaris (setenv/putenv and xftree crashes on startup even if the first is worked around) these are both known problems which have been fixed in CVS. James -- +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__ | | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | +--------------------------------------------------------+---------+ From dwijnants at askalix.com Fri Jul 26 18:16:07 2002 From: dwijnants at askalix.com (David Wijnants) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:16:07 +0100 Subject: Desktop panning and a nitpick (was Re: How do I disable/modify desktop panning?) References: <3D41476D.776CC2E7@askalix.com> <3d414629.782c.0@yifan.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20020726150841.009f0630@mail.home.nl> <1027695894.2494.10.camel@mickey> <20020726172028.28b895d1.huysmans@users.sourceforge.net> <3D4169B9.12AAA8CD@askalix.com> <20020726173953.4c64423f.huysmans@users.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: <3D4175C7.ACF7FCC3@askalix.com> You could work your way up the process tree to see how you are related to X, but there are quite a number of scenarios: - exec the window manager at the bottom of .xinitrc, and get it to run the panel as a module. In this case, the panel can send commands to the window manager. This is what I do at work, I run xfwm, but with my own Tcl/Tk panel; it is also more or less what xfwm does by default. - spawn the window manager first, and then exec the panel. In this case, when the panel exits, the window manager is killed, along with any other X applications. This is how I used to run the xfce panel with mwm; the panel warns you correctly that you are about to log out. - run the panel from an xterm. In this case exiting the panel will have no effect on the rest of X, but xfce gives a misleading warning. - get the panel to look at its children to see if one of them is a window manager. This works ok with xfwm and mwm, but catering for the millions of other window managers might be a problem (and it might not be very portably either). - get spawned by a session manager. In this case, the panel exits, but the rest stays up until the session manager is closed (unless the panel has a way of closing the session manager). I don't use session management myself, so I'm not sure how this would work in practice. - and probably many other ways of doing the same things... I hope this helps. Maybe others could share their own experiences of using XFce in other environments. Dave. Jasper Huijsmans wrote: > > Dave, > > That's not what I meant. I meant the program that controls the xsession. > When you quit this program X will quit as well. For xfce3 this is xfwm > if I'm correct and the panel asks xfwm to quit if you quit the panel. > > For xfce4 I'm now running xfce4 as the controlling app, so quitting the > panel will quit X. Gnome uses a separate session manager as controlling > app. There's also ROX-Session. > > I was wondering if there is a way to find out which app controls the X > session. > > This is all very much off-topic of course ;-) > > Jasper > > On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:24:41 +0100 > David Wijnants wrote: > > > A program can guess that it is running as a module by looking at the > > command line parameters, the two numbers (e.g. 7 and 4) are the file > > descriptors through which it exchanges commands with xfce (such as > > 'Quit' or 'Desk 2'). > > > > Dave. > > > > > > Jasper Huijsmans wrote: > > > > > > I wonder if it is possible to know if the panel is the > > > 'session-controlling' app (I don't know how this is called)? > > > > > > Jasper > > _______________________________________________ > > Xfce mailing list > > Xfce at moongroup.com > > http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce > _______________________________________________ > Xfce mailing list > Xfce at moongroup.com > http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce From fourdan at xfce.org Sun Jul 28 23:36:37 2002 From: fourdan at xfce.org (Olivier Fourdan) Date: 28 Jul 2002 23:36:37 +0200 Subject: Away from my mails Message-ID: <1027892198.1434.66.camel@localhost> Hi all, I'll be a way from my mails for a couple of weeks. Don't expect much from me during the time frame. Cheers, -- Olivier http://www.xfce.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------- XFce is a lightweight desktop environment for various *NIX systems. Designed for productivity, it loads and executes applications fast, while conserving system resources. XFce is all free software, released under GNU General Public License. Available from http://www.xfce.org From klemmerj at webtrek.com Mon Jul 29 02:36:36 2002 From: klemmerj at webtrek.com (Joe Klemmer) Date: 28 Jul 2002 20:36:36 -0400 Subject: Away from my mails In-Reply-To: <1027892198.1434.66.camel@localhost> References: <1027892198.1434.66.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1027902997.19032.31.camel@emperor> On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 17:36, Olivier Fourdan wrote: > I'll be a way from my mails for a couple of weeks. > > Don't expect much from me during the time frame. In that case it would be a _very_ good idea to release 3.8.18 to the world. It's already been put off far to long. -- Attention all planets of the Solar Federation. We have assumed control. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From klemmerj at webtrek.com Mon Jul 29 03:01:48 2002 From: klemmerj at webtrek.com (Joe Klemmer) Date: 28 Jul 2002 21:01:48 -0400 Subject: Away from my mails In-Reply-To: <1027904013.10128.3.camel@mickey> References: <1027892198.1434.66.camel@localhost> <1027902997.19032.31.camel@emperor> <1027904013.10128.3.camel@mickey> Message-ID: <1027904509.19034.51.camel@emperor> On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 20:53, Ben Hall wrote: > Hmm.. a release just before the lead developer goes on vacation (or > whatever..) I dunno... I'm using 3.8.18 right now, but there isn't > _that_ much of a difference between 16 and 18. Why not wait the two > weeks and see if anything pops up? CVS people can be CVS people, and > new users get a known solid release. (Sure they miss out on the > taskjar, but the core of XFce is the same.) > > If I were Olivier I wouldn't want a potential headache before trying to > nip out for a while... This tactic has been used by Linus for Linux releases with much success. 3.8.18 is already stable and solid (except for the little taskbar error that would not be noticed unless the user has the SubProcess Diagnostics on). > Hey, wait a minute Joe, shouldn't you be against releasing? ;) I'm against not releasing 3.8.18. -- Attention all planets of the Solar Federation. We have assumed control. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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