From edscott at imp.mx  Mon Apr  1 02:53:44 2002
From: edscott at imp.mx (Edscott Wilson =?iso-8859-1?q?Garc=EDa?=)
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 18:53:44 -0600
Subject: Idea about extended menus
In-Reply-To: <E16rfqj-0006g2-00@the-village.bc.nu>
References: <E16rfqj-0006g2-00@the-village.bc.nu>
Message-ID: <200203311853.45042.edscott@imp.mx>

On Dom 31 Mar 2002 07:58, Alan Cox wrote:
>
> If you want to do it portably - man dlopen

Been checking on it. It seems to work real well. And to be a good way to keep 
xftree small while extending it's usefulness. 

8-)




From edscott at imp.mx  Mon Apr  1 05:42:13 2002
From: edscott at imp.mx (Edscott Wilson =?iso-8859-1?q?Garc=EDa?=)
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 21:42:13 -0600
Subject: new config.in stuff for xfce
Message-ID: <200203312142.13823.edscott@imp.mx>

 Hi,

  I just uploaded a new config.in and asociated files for xfce-dev tree. This 
configure does the check for gtk2 and sets up the makefiles accordingly. It 
uses the same ./autogen.sh as the xfce-stable tree for initial setup. So far 
it only does the makefiles for xfbd, xfdiff, xfsound and xfumed. 

 xfbd2, xfdiff, and xfumed 2compile without problems, but xfbdmgr2 and 
xfsound2 fail to compile. Could you check on them, Jasper, when you get back 
from your holiday?

Edscott


From j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl  Mon Apr  1 12:35:15 2002
From: j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl (Jasper Huijsmans)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 12:35:15 +0200
Subject: new config.in stuff for xfce
In-Reply-To: <200203312142.13823.edscott@imp.mx>
References: <200203312142.13823.edscott@imp.mx>
Message-ID: <20020401123515.42217f0b.j.b.huijsmans@hetnet.nl>

Hi Edscott,

You just made two typo's in the Makefile.am files. It's fixed now. I
also added xfmouse to the top Makfile.am and it works for me.

BTW, wouldn't it be a good time to remove all autogenerated files from
CVS (Makefile.in files mostly I guess).

I also have a question about xpm files. When using
gdk_pixbuf_new_from_xpm_data I get a warning for an incompatible
pointer type. This disappears when I change the type to a static const
char * []. Should I change this or am I doing something wrong?

Wow, it's good to be back with all the exciting things hapening with
xfce4.

Greetings,
	Jasper



On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 21:42:13 -0600
Edscott Wilson Garc?a <edscott at imp.mx> wrote:

>  Hi,
> 
>   I just uploaded a new config.in and asociated files for xfce-dev
tree. This > configure does the check for gtk2 and sets up the
makefiles accordingly. It > uses the same ./autogen.sh as the
xfce-stable tree for initial setup. So far > it only does the
makefiles for xfbd, xfdiff, xfsound and xfumed. > 
>  xfbd2, xfdiff, and xfumed 2compile without problems, but xfbdmgr2
and > xfsound2 fail to compile. Could you check on them, Jasper, when
you get back > from your holiday?
> 
> Edscott
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce-dev mailing list
> Xfce-dev at moongroup.com
> http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev


From edscott at imp.mx  Mon Apr  1 16:48:40 2002
From: edscott at imp.mx (Edscott Wilson =?iso-8859-1?q?Garc=EDa?=)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 08:48:40 -0600
Subject: new config.in stuff for xfce
In-Reply-To: <20020401123515.42217f0b.j.b.huijsmans@hetnet.nl>
References: <200203312142.13823.edscott@imp.mx> <20020401123515.42217f0b.j.b.huijsmans@hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <200204010848.40701.edscott@imp.mx>

On Lun 01 Abr 2002 04:35, Jasper Huijsmans wrote:
>
> BTW, wouldn't it be a good time to remove all autogenerated files from
> CVS (Makefile.in files mostly I guess).

Yes, I agree with you.

>
> I also have a question about xpm files. When using
> gdk_pixbuf_new_from_xpm_data I get a warning for an incompatible
> pointer type. This disappears when I change the type to a static const
> char * []. Should I change this or am I doing something wrong?

Maybe both. I had trouble with the same and it seems that (const char *) has a 
different data alignment than a (char *). Which means that even if you cast 
it as a (const char *), if you actually use it as a (char *) for modifying 
the contents (easy way to toggle colors, for example), gdkpixbuf will croak 
when you try to make a pixmap with it. I suppose that if you do not modify 
the xpm structure, then the compiler treats it as a (const char *) and 
therefore the cast works ok. 

If you modify a xpm, then the easy way (hack) to make it work for a pixmap 
creation is to write it back to disk and read it again. This aligns the data 
the way a (const char*) proper. There should be another way but I ran out of 
my timelimit while looking for the way to align as (const char *), which 
might not even be portable.

Edscott

>
> Wow, it's good to be back with all the exciting things hapening with
> xfce4.

The ldopen stuff is a most necesary. By using it nautilus has shrunk to twice 
the size of xftree and konqueror 2.99rc3 is only 3260 bytes (probably 
overkill, though). 

>
> Greetings,
> 	Jasper
>
>
>
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 21:42:13 -0600
>
> Edscott Wilson Garc?a <edscott at imp.mx> wrote:
> >  Hi,
> >
> >   I just uploaded a new config.in and asociated files for xfce-dev
>
> tree. This > configure does the check for gtk2 and sets up the
> makefiles accordingly. It > uses the same ./autogen.sh as the
> xfce-stable tree for initial setup. So far > it only does the
> makefiles for xfbd, xfdiff, xfsound and xfumed. >
>
> >  xfbd2, xfdiff, and xfumed 2compile without problems, but xfbdmgr2
>
> and > xfsound2 fail to compile. Could you check on them, Jasper, when
> you get back > from your holiday?
>
> > Edscott
> > _______________________________________________
> > Xfce-dev mailing list
> > Xfce-dev at moongroup.com
> > http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce-dev mailing list
> Xfce-dev at moongroup.com
> http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev



From ksv77 at lycos.com  Tue Apr  2 13:22:34 2002
From: ksv77 at lycos.com (Venkatesh K S)
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 16:52:34 +0530
Subject: Switching desktops code fix
Message-ID: <FHAHKBAPFNDPPBAA@mailcity.com>

hi,

will this diff in xfwm.c make Alt+Tab switch between windows in the same desktop.

*** 25,32 ****
      for (tp = Scr.XfwmRoot.next; tp != NULL; tp = tp->next)
      {
          if (!(tp->flags & CirculateSkip) &&
!                 !((tp->flags & CirculateSkipIcon) && (tp->flags & ICONIFIED))
!       && (tp->Desk == Scr.CurrentDesk))
          {
              countw++;
              /* Select the second window in the list */
--- 25,31 ----
      for (tp = Scr.XfwmRoot.next; tp != NULL; tp = tp->next)
      {
          if (!(tp->flags & CirculateSkip) &&
!                 !((tp->flags & CirculateSkipIcon) && (tp->flags & ICONIFIED)))
          {
              countw++;
              /* Select the second window in the list */


-ksv


On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 09:14:45  
 Paul wrote:
>On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 23:07:42 -0700 Collins wrote:
>
>>Is there any way to direct xfce to maintain focus in the most recently
>>used window on the desktop when switching desktops.  The way it is now,
>>when you click on desktop one...four in the panel, the panel receives
>>the focus in the newly switched desktop.  Thay way, it takes one extra
>>mouse move and click to refocus the desired window.
>
>Pressing ctrl-F<desktopnr) works fine with me for that.
>If you move the mouse cursor to the panel, that is what gets (and keeps)
>focus, since it is a program as well. Paul
>
>--
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>-Oscar Wilde
>
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From j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl  Tue Apr  2 14:47:36 2002
From: j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl (Jasper Huijsmans)
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 14:47:36 +0200
Subject: Learning about CVS
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020402143847.009f8370@pop.hetnet.nl>

Hi all,

I just came across this page with info on CVS: 
http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.html
Maybe it could be helpful for people wanting to understand a bit more about 
CVS. I read it very quickly, but it seems very clear. Especially the part 
about tags and branches was very informative for me. We don't use those 
now, do we?

	Jasper



From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Thu Apr  4 18:18:53 2002
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 17:18:53 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Xfce S/390
Message-ID: <E16t9wr-0006GV-00@the-village.bc.nu>

I'm using hercules (S/390 emulator) as one of my stress test tools nowdays
and feeding it packages as I go.

I'm pleased to announce both the availability of S/390 xfce packages and
the fact that Xfce seems to "just work" on the Linux/390 platform.



From klemmerj at webtrek.com  Thu Apr  4 19:25:54 2002
From: klemmerj at webtrek.com (Joe Klemmer)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 12:25:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Xfce S/390
In-Reply-To: <E16t9wr-0006GV-00@the-village.bc.nu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204041224480.9081-100000@snowball.webtrek.com>

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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Alan Cox wrote:

> I'm using hercules (S/390 emulator) as one of my stress test tools
> nowdays and feeding it packages as I go.
> 
> I'm pleased to announce both the availability of S/390 xfce packages and
> the fact that Xfce seems to "just work" on the Linux/390 platform.

	That is just to cool.  God how I wish I had a 390...  If it were 
possible I'd run Linux and MVS w/CICS side by side.

- -- 
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From edscott at imp.mx  Thu Apr  4 20:45:15 2002
From: edscott at imp.mx (Edscott Wilson Garcia)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 12:45:15 -0600
Subject: Xfce S/390
In-Reply-To: <E16t9wr-0006GV-00@the-village.bc.nu>
References: <E16t9wr-0006GV-00@the-village.bc.nu>
Message-ID: <200204041245.15869.edscott@imp.mx>

On Thursday 04 April 2002 10:18, Alan Cox wrote:
> I'm pleased to announce both the availability of S/390 xfce packages and
> the fact that Xfce seems to "just work" on the Linux/390 platform.

Does linux run on itanium? Intel has offered to lend two to four processors to 
IMP to perform tests.  I can only find amd-x86-64 for a gcc compiler, but I 
cold possibly get one of these boxes for tests if I could tell them what is 
going to be tested.

-- 
saludos,

Edscott


From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Thu Apr  4 21:31:23 2002
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 20:31:23 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Xfce S/390
In-Reply-To: <200204041245.15869.edscott@imp.mx> from "Edscott Wilson Garcia" at Apr 04, 2002 12:45:15 PM
Message-ID: <E16tCx9-0006bJ-00@the-village.bc.nu>

> Does linux run on itanium? Intel has offered to lend two to four processors to 
> IMP to perform tests.  I can only find amd-x86-64 for a gcc compiler, but I 
> cold possibly get one of these boxes for tests if I could tell them what is 
> going to be tested.

There is a complete Red Hat for the itanic and I believe a couple of other
distros. They aren't widely available as with only about 500 itanic boxes
sold so far its not exactly "mass market".


From edscott at imp.mx  Thu Apr  4 21:50:31 2002
From: edscott at imp.mx (Edscott Wilson Garcia)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 13:50:31 -0600
Subject: Xfce S/390
In-Reply-To: <E16tCx9-0006bJ-00@the-village.bc.nu>
References: <E16tCx9-0006bJ-00@the-village.bc.nu>
Message-ID: <200204041350.31176.edscott@imp.mx>

On Thursday 04 April 2002 13:31, Alan Cox wrote:
>
> There is a complete Red Hat for the itanic and I believe a couple of other
> distros. They aren't widely available as with only about 500 itanic boxes
> sold so far its not exactly "mass market".

Great. I'll tell them I need to test the Red Hat distro to see how well the 
itanic behaves for beowulf class cluster applications. If I get the green 
light, then I'll worry about getting the RH distro, or finding a suitable 
compiler.

-- 
saludos,

Edscott


From fourdan at xfce.org  Fri Apr  5 09:45:02 2002
From: fourdan at xfce.org (Olivier Fourdan)
Date: 05 Apr 2002 09:45:02 +0200
Subject: Xfce S/390
In-Reply-To: <E16t9wr-0006GV-00@the-village.bc.nu>
References: <E16t9wr-0006GV-00@the-village.bc.nu>
Message-ID: <1017992732.18882.3.camel@olivier.anfora>

Hi Alan,

Great ! Did you have to modify the code to get it compile ?

If so, you might want to contribute a patch ;-)

Cheers,
Olivier.

On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 18:18, Alan Cox wrote:
> I'm using hercules (S/390 emulator) as one of my stress test tools nowdays
> and feeding it packages as I go.
> 
> I'm pleased to announce both the availability of S/390 xfce packages and
> the fact that Xfce seems to "just work" on the Linux/390 platform.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce-dev mailing list
> Xfce-dev at moongroup.com
> http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev
> 
-- 
Olivier               <fourdan at xfce.org>            http://www.xfce.org
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
XFce is a lightweight  desktop  environment  for  various *NIX systems.
Designed for productivity,  it loads  and  executes  applications fast,
while conserving  system resources. XFce is all free software, released
under GNU General Public License.    Available from http://www.xfce.org



From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Fri Apr  5 14:42:51 2002
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 13:42:51 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Xfce S/390
In-Reply-To: <1017992732.18882.3.camel@olivier.anfora> from "Olivier Fourdan" at Apr 05, 2002 09:45:02 AM
Message-ID: <E16tT3L-0008DB-00@the-village.bc.nu>

> Great ! Did you have to modify the code to get it compile ?

No changes required.


From j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl  Mon Apr 15 13:36:19 2002
From: j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl (Jasper Huijsmans)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:36:19 +0200
Subject: New release?
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020415133007.00a039b0@pop.hetnet.nl>

Olivier,

Are you going to do a new xfce 3 release today?

If there is anything I can help with to make it happen, please let me know. 
As usual I only have access to a linux box after I get home from work (in 
ca. 4 hrs).

Jasper



From fourdan at xfce.org  Mon Apr 15 14:22:12 2002
From: fourdan at xfce.org (Olivier Fourdan)
Date: 15 Apr 2002 14:22:12 +0200
Subject: New release?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020415133007.00a039b0@pop.hetnet.nl>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020415133007.00a039b0@pop.hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <1018873362.8880.2.camel@olivier.anfora>

Hi Jasper,

Yes, yes... Hum, today or tomorrow.

Cheers,
Olivier.

On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 13:36, Jasper Huijsmans wrote:
> Olivier,
> 
> Are you going to do a new xfce 3 release today?
> 
> If there is anything I can help with to make it happen, please let me know. 
> As usual I only have access to a linux box after I get home from work (in 
> ca. 4 hrs).
> 
> Jasper
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce-dev mailing list
> Xfce-dev at moongroup.com
> http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev
> 
-- 
Olivier               <fourdan at xfce.org>            http://www.xfce.org
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
XFce is a lightweight  desktop  environment  for  various *NIX systems.
Designed for productivity,  it loads  and  executes  applications fast,
while conserving  system resources. XFce is all free software, released
under GNU General Public License.    Available from http://www.xfce.org



From j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl  Mon Apr 15 15:35:44 2002
From: j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl (Jasper Huijsmans)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:35:44 +0200
Subject: New release?
In-Reply-To: <1018873362.8880.2.camel@olivier.anfora>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020415133007.00a039b0@pop.hetnet.nl>
 <5.1.0.14.0.20020415133007.00a039b0@pop.hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020415153245.00a00760@pop.hetnet.nl>

Ok, thanks.

I was just curious.

Jasper

At 02:22 PM 4/15/02, you wrote:
>Hi Jasper,
>
>Yes, yes... Hum, today or tomorrow.
>
>Cheers,
>Olivier.
>
>On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 13:36, Jasper Huijsmans wrote:
> > Olivier,
> >
> > Are you going to do a new xfce 3 release today?
> >
> > If there is anything I can help with to make it happen, please let me 
> know.
> > As usual I only have access to a linux box after I get home from work (in
> > ca. 4 hrs).
> >
> > Jasper
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Xfce-dev mailing list
> > Xfce-dev at moongroup.com
> > http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev
> >
>--
>Olivier               <fourdan at xfce.org>            http://www.xfce.org
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>XFce is a lightweight  desktop  environment  for  various *NIX systems.
>Designed for productivity,  it loads  and  executes  applications fast,
>while conserving  system resources. XFce is all free software, released
>under GNU General Public License.    Available from http://www.xfce.org
>
>_______________________________________________
>Xfce-dev mailing list
>Xfce-dev at moongroup.com
>http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev



From klemmerj at webtrek.com  Mon Apr 15 18:43:20 2002
From: klemmerj at webtrek.com (Joe Klemmer)
Date: 15 Apr 2002 12:43:20 -0400
Subject: New release?
In-Reply-To: <1018873362.8880.2.camel@olivier.anfora>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020415133007.00a039b0@pop.hetnet.nl> 
	<1018873362.8880.2.camel@olivier.anfora>
Message-ID: <1018889001.2357.134.camel@emperor>

On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 08:22, Olivier Fourdan wrote:

> Yes, yes... Hum, today or tomorrow.

	Careful, Olivier...  You're going to start looking like an Italian.  I
know 'cuse I am one.  ;-)

[For those not sure what I'm talking about, the "Italian" way is always
"Tomorrow" or "Whenever".  If you look in the dictionary under "laid
back" you'll see Italian.  :-)]

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From fourdan at xfce.org  Mon Apr 15 23:04:25 2002
From: fourdan at xfce.org (Olivier Fourdan)
Date: 15 Apr 2002 23:04:25 +0200
Subject: New release?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020415133007.00a039b0@pop.hetnet.nl>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020415133007.00a039b0@pop.hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <1018904666.2210.2.camel@localhost>

Okay all,

Last chance before release.

http://www.xfce.org/archive/xfce-cvs-snapshot.tar.gz

I've updated all the xlations I received, set version to 3.8.16, update
the ChangeLog, and put some small last changes, including the colored
buttons when compiled with --enable-old-style

Release should occur tomorrow.

Cheers,
Olivier.

On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 13:36, Jasper Huijsmans wrote:
> Olivier,
> 
> Are you going to do a new xfce 3 release today?
> 
> If there is anything I can help with to make it happen, please let me know. 
> As usual I only have access to a linux box after I get home from work (in 
> ca. 4 hrs).
> 
> Jasper
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce-dev mailing list
> Xfce-dev at moongroup.com
> http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev
> 
-- 
Olivier               <fourdan at xfce.org>            http://www.xfce.org
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
XFce is a lightweight  desktop  environment  for  various *NIX systems. 
Designed for productivity,  it loads  and  executes  applications fast,
while conserving  system resources. XFce is all free software, released
under GNU General Public License.    Available from http://www.xfce.org



From klemmerj at webtrek.com  Wed Apr 17 13:15:35 2002
From: klemmerj at webtrek.com (Joe Klemmer)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 07:15:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: New release?
In-Reply-To: <1018904666.2210.2.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204170714070.30375-100000@snowball.webtrek.com>

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On 15 Apr 2002, Olivier Fourdan wrote:

> Last chance before release.
> 
> http://www.xfce.org/archive/xfce-cvs-snapshot.tar.gz
> 
> I've updated all the xlations I received, set version to 3.8.16, update
> the ChangeLog, and put some small last changes, including the colored
> buttons when compiled with --enable-old-style
> 
> Release should occur tomorrow.

	Isn't tomorrow yesterday?  Man, these temporal displacements can
really be a pain.  :-P

- -- 
Joe "No, I _don't_ have anything better to do" Klemmer
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From fourdan at xfce.org  Wed Apr 17 14:00:06 2002
From: fourdan at xfce.org (Olivier Fourdan)
Date: 17 Apr 2002 14:00:06 +0200
Subject: New release?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204170714070.30375-100000@snowball.webtrek.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204170714070.30375-100000@snowball.webtrek.com>
Message-ID: <1019044836.23035.0.camel@olivier.anfora>

Err... I forgot !

Truely, I'm so excited with xfwm4 right now... But tonite, for sure,
I'll make a xfce-3 release. Promise :-)

Cheers,
Olivier


On Wed, 2002-04-17 at 13:15, Joe Klemmer wrote:
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> > Last chance before release.
> > 
> > http://www.xfce.org/archive/xfce-cvs-snapshot.tar.gz
> > 
> > I've updated all the xlations I received, set version to 3.8.16, update
> > the ChangeLog, and put some small last changes, including the colored
> > buttons when compiled with --enable-old-style
> > 
> > Release should occur tomorrow.
> 
> 	Isn't tomorrow yesterday?  Man, these temporal displacements can
> really be a pain.  :-P
> 
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From fourdan at xfce.org  Thu Apr 18 12:29:55 2002
From: fourdan at xfce.org (Olivier Fourdan)
Date: 18 Apr 2002 12:29:55 +0200
Subject: [Fwd: new release]
Message-ID: <1019125825.24811.0.camel@olivier.anfora>

-----Forwarded Message-----

> From: Mike Bressem <mb at imsc.net>
> To: fourdan at xfce.org
> Subject: new release
> Date: 18 Apr 2002 12:29:42 +0200
> 
> 
> hi oliver,
> 
> i tried to compile 3.8.16 under solaris with gcc and got the following
> problem. could you please tell me what i did wrong ?
> 
> make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/xfce-3.8.16/xftree'
> /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc  -g -O2 -Wall -Wno-implicit-int
> -L/usr/openwin/lib -o xftree  entry.o gtk_dlg.o gtk_exec.o gtk_get.o
> gtk_prop.o io.o reg.o top.o uri.o xtree.o xtree_dnd.o xtree_functions.o
> xtree_gui.o xtree_cb.o xtree_go.o xtree_misc.o xtree_du.o tubo.o
> xtree_mess.o xtree_cpy.o xtree_pasteboard.o xtree_toolbar.o xtree_tar.o
> xtree_rpm.o xtree_colorsel.o xtree_icons.o xtree_smb.o
> ../libs/libxfcecore.la  -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/openwin/lib
> -R/usr/openwin/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket
> -lnsl -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lgdk_pixbuf -L/usr/local/lib
> -L/usr/openwin/lib -R/usr/openwin/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -ldl
> -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm ../intl/libintl.a -liconv -lXpm
> -L/usr/openwin/lib -R/usr/openwin/lib -lSM -lICE -lXpm -lXpm 
> gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wno-implicit-int -o xftree entry.o gtk_dlg.o gtk_exec.o
> gtk_get.o gtk_prop.o io.o reg.o top.o uri.o xtree.o xtree_dnd.o
> xtree_functions.o xtree_gui.o xtree_cb.o xtree_go.o xtree_misc.o
> xtree_du.o tubo.o xtree_mess.o xtree_cpy.o xtree_pasteboard.o
> xtree_toolbar.o xtree_tar.o xtree_rpm.o xtree_colorsel.o xtree_icons.o
> xtree_smb.o  -L/usr/openwin/lib ../libs/.libs/libxfcecore.al
> -L/usr/local/lib -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm -lsocket -lnsl -ldl
> -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm -ldl -lsocket -lnsl -ldl -ldl -lXext -lX11
> -lsocket -lnsl -lm -lsocket -lnsl -lXpm -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl
> -lm -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm -ldl -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket
> -lnsl -lm /usr/local/lib/libgdk_pixbuf.so -ldl -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket
> -lnsl -lm /usr/local/lib/libgtk.so -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm
> /usr/local/lib/libgdk.so -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm
> /usr/local/lib/libgmodule.so -ldl /usr/local/lib/libglib.so -ldl -lXext
> -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm ../intl/libintl.a /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so
> -lXpm -lSM -lICE -lXpm -lXpm -R/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib
> -R/usr/openwin/lib
> Undefined                       first referenced
>  symbol                             in file
> setenv                              xtree.o
> ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to xftree
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make[3]: *** [xftree] Error 1
> 
> 
> kind regards,
> mike
> 
> 
> Mike Bressem                            Internet Management GmbH
> ============                            Auf der Weih 2
>                                         35745 Herborn - Germany
> Never underestimate the power           Telefon +49 2772 4723 - 0
> of stupid people in large groups.       Telefax +49 2772 4723 - 29
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Designed for productivity,  it loads  and  executes  applications fast,
while conserving  system resources. XFce is all free software, released
under GNU General Public License.    Available from http://www.xfce.org



From j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl  Thu Apr 18 13:14:08 2002
From: j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl (Jasper Huijsmans)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 13:14:08 +0200
Subject: [Fwd: new release]
In-Reply-To: <1019125825.24811.0.camel@olivier.anfora>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020418130045.009eca40@pop.hetnet.nl>

I don't know if I'm jumping to conclusions now, but if there is indeed a 
problem with solaris compilation that wasn't there before, wouldn't it be a 
good idea to release a release candidate before any final release and ask 
the xfce list to try and compile it on the platforms that we don't have 
access to (anything except linux and freebsd I would guess).

Of course it might prove to be just a matter of old autotools versions or 
something equally simple...

Not even 0.02 euro,
         Jasper


At 12:29 PM 4/18/02, you wrote:
>-----Forwarded Message-----
>
> > From: Mike Bressem <mb at imsc.net>
> > To: fourdan at xfce.org
> > Subject: new release
> > Date: 18 Apr 2002 12:29:42 +0200
> >
> >
> > hi oliver,
> >
> > i tried to compile 3.8.16 under solaris with gcc and got the following
> > problem. could you please tell me what i did wrong ?
> >
> > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/xfce-3.8.16/xftree'
> > /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc  -g -O2 -Wall -Wno-implicit-int
> > -L/usr/openwin/lib -o xftree  entry.o gtk_dlg.o gtk_exec.o gtk_get.o
> > gtk_prop.o io.o reg.o top.o uri.o xtree.o xtree_dnd.o xtree_functions.o
> > xtree_gui.o xtree_cb.o xtree_go.o xtree_misc.o xtree_du.o tubo.o
> > xtree_mess.o xtree_cpy.o xtree_pasteboard.o xtree_toolbar.o xtree_tar.o
> > xtree_rpm.o xtree_colorsel.o xtree_icons.o xtree_smb.o
> > ../libs/libxfcecore.la  -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/openwin/lib
> > -R/usr/openwin/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket
> > -lnsl -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lgdk_pixbuf -L/usr/local/lib
> > -L/usr/openwin/lib -R/usr/openwin/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -ldl
> > -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm ../intl/libintl.a -liconv -lXpm
> > -L/usr/openwin/lib -R/usr/openwin/lib -lSM -lICE -lXpm -lXpm
> > gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wno-implicit-int -o xftree entry.o gtk_dlg.o gtk_exec.o
> > gtk_get.o gtk_prop.o io.o reg.o top.o uri.o xtree.o xtree_dnd.o
> > xtree_functions.o xtree_gui.o xtree_cb.o xtree_go.o xtree_misc.o
> > xtree_du.o tubo.o xtree_mess.o xtree_cpy.o xtree_pasteboard.o
> > xtree_toolbar.o xtree_tar.o xtree_rpm.o xtree_colorsel.o xtree_icons.o
> > xtree_smb.o  -L/usr/openwin/lib ../libs/.libs/libxfcecore.al
> > -L/usr/local/lib -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm -lsocket -lnsl -ldl
> > -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm -ldl -lsocket -lnsl -ldl -ldl -lXext -lX11
> > -lsocket -lnsl -lm -lsocket -lnsl -lXpm -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl
> > -lm -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm -ldl -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket
> > -lnsl -lm /usr/local/lib/libgdk_pixbuf.so -ldl -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket
> > -lnsl -lm /usr/local/lib/libgtk.so -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm
> > /usr/local/lib/libgdk.so -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm
> > /usr/local/lib/libgmodule.so -ldl /usr/local/lib/libglib.so -ldl -lXext
> > -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm ../intl/libintl.a /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so
> > -lXpm -lSM -lICE -lXpm -lXpm -R/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib
> > -R/usr/openwin/lib
> > Undefined                       first referenced
> >  symbol                             in file
> > setenv                              xtree.o
> > ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to xftree
> > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> > make[3]: *** [xftree] Error 1
> >
> >
> > kind regards,
> > mike
> >
> >
> > Mike Bressem                            Internet Management GmbH
> > ============                            Auf der Weih 2
> >                                         35745 Herborn - Germany
> > Never underestimate the power           Telefon +49 2772 4723 - 0
> > of stupid people in large groups.       Telefax +49 2772 4723 - 29
> >
> > PGP Fingerprint : 6F 24 75 C4 AE 55 CB E0  F2 E8 D6 DB 35 37 9F EC
> >
> >
> >
>--
>Olivier               <fourdan at xfce.org>            http://www.xfce.org
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>XFce is a lightweight  desktop  environment  for  various *NIX systems.
>Designed for productivity,  it loads  and  executes  applications fast,
>while conserving  system resources. XFce is all free software, released
>under GNU General Public License.    Available from http://www.xfce.org
>
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From mvkp at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 18 13:28:36 2002
From: mvkp at yahoo.com (K. Prasad)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 04:28:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fwd: new release]
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020418130045.009eca40@pop.hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <20020418112836.22120.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com>

As far as i know we have to use putenv instead of
setenv in solaris

--- Jasper Huijsmans <j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl> wrote:
> I don't know if I'm jumping to conclusions now, but
> if there is indeed a 
> problem with solaris compilation that wasn't there
> before, wouldn't it be a 
> good idea to release a release candidate before any
> final release and ask 
> the xfce list to try and compile it on the platforms
> that we don't have 
> access to (anything except linux and freebsd I would
> guess).
> 
> Of course it might prove to be just a matter of old
> autotools versions or 
> something equally simple...
> 
> Not even 0.02 euro,
>          Jasper
> 
> 
> At 12:29 PM 4/18/02, you wrote:
> >-----Forwarded Message-----
> >
> > > From: Mike Bressem <mb at imsc.net>
> > > To: fourdan at xfce.org
> > > Subject: new release
> > > Date: 18 Apr 2002 12:29:42 +0200
> > >
> > >
> > > hi oliver,
> > >
> > > i tried to compile 3.8.16 under solaris with gcc
> and got the following
> > > problem. could you please tell me what i did
> wrong ?
> > >
> > > make[3]: Entering directory
> `/usr/local/src/xfce-3.8.16/xftree'
> > > /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc  -g -O2 -Wall
> -Wno-implicit-int
> > > -L/usr/openwin/lib -o xftree  entry.o gtk_dlg.o
> gtk_exec.o gtk_get.o
> > > gtk_prop.o io.o reg.o top.o uri.o xtree.o
> xtree_dnd.o xtree_functions.o
> > > xtree_gui.o xtree_cb.o xtree_go.o xtree_misc.o
> xtree_du.o tubo.o
> > > xtree_mess.o xtree_cpy.o xtree_pasteboard.o
> xtree_toolbar.o xtree_tar.o
> > > xtree_rpm.o xtree_colorsel.o xtree_icons.o
> xtree_smb.o
> > > ../libs/libxfcecore.la  -L/usr/local/lib
> -L/usr/openwin/lib
> > > -R/usr/openwin/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib
> -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket
> > > -lnsl -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lgdk_pixbuf
> -L/usr/local/lib
> > > -L/usr/openwin/lib -R/usr/openwin/lib -lgtk
> -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -ldl
> > > -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm
> ../intl/libintl.a -liconv -lXpm
> > > -L/usr/openwin/lib -R/usr/openwin/lib -lSM -lICE
> -lXpm -lXpm
> > > gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wno-implicit-int -o xftree
> entry.o gtk_dlg.o gtk_exec.o
> > > gtk_get.o gtk_prop.o io.o reg.o top.o uri.o
> xtree.o xtree_dnd.o
> > > xtree_functions.o xtree_gui.o xtree_cb.o
> xtree_go.o xtree_misc.o
> > > xtree_du.o tubo.o xtree_mess.o xtree_cpy.o
> xtree_pasteboard.o
> > > xtree_toolbar.o xtree_tar.o xtree_rpm.o
> xtree_colorsel.o xtree_icons.o
> > > xtree_smb.o  -L/usr/openwin/lib
> ../libs/.libs/libxfcecore.al
> > > -L/usr/local/lib -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket
> -lnsl -lm -lsocket -lnsl -ldl
> > > -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm -ldl -lsocket
> -lnsl -ldl -ldl -lXext -lX11
> > > -lsocket -lnsl -lm -lsocket -lnsl -lXpm -ldl
> -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl
> > > -lm -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm -ldl
> -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket
> > > -lnsl -lm /usr/local/lib/libgdk_pixbuf.so -ldl
> -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket
> > > -lnsl -lm /usr/local/lib/libgtk.so -ldl -lXext
> -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm
> > > /usr/local/lib/libgdk.so -ldl -lXext -lX11
> -lsocket -lnsl -lm
> > > /usr/local/lib/libgmodule.so -ldl
> /usr/local/lib/libglib.so -ldl -lXext
> > > -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm ../intl/libintl.a
> /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so
> > > -lXpm -lSM -lICE -lXpm -lXpm -R/usr/local/lib
> -R/usr/local/lib
> > > -R/usr/openwin/lib
> > > Undefined                       first referenced
> > >  symbol                             in file
> > > setenv                              xtree.o
> > > ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output
> written to xftree
> > > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> > > make[3]: *** [xftree] Error 1
> > >
> > >
> > > kind regards,
> > > mike
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike Bressem                            Internet
> Management GmbH
> > > ============                            Auf der
> Weih 2
> > >                                         35745
> Herborn - Germany
> > > Never underestimate the power           Telefon
> +49 2772 4723 - 0
> > > of stupid people in large groups.       Telefax
> +49 2772 4723 - 29
> > >
> > > PGP Fingerprint : 6F 24 75 C4 AE 55 CB E0  F2 E8
> D6 DB 35 37 9F EC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >--
> >Olivier               <fourdan at xfce.org>           
> http://www.xfce.org
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >XFce is a lightweight  desktop  environment  for 
> various *NIX systems.
> >Designed for productivity,  it loads  and  executes
>  applications fast,
> >while conserving  system resources. XFce is all
> free software, released
> >under GNU General Public License.    Available from
> http://www.xfce.org
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Xfce-dev mailing list
> >Xfce-dev at moongroup.com
> >http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev
> 
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From fourdan at xfce.org  Thu Apr 18 13:58:32 2002
From: fourdan at xfce.org (Olivier Fourdan)
Date: 18 Apr 2002 13:58:32 +0200
Subject: [Fwd: new release]
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020418130045.009eca40@pop.hetnet.nl>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020418130045.009eca40@pop.hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <1019131142.24811.6.camel@olivier.anfora>

Hi Jasper,

The cvs snapshot is always available, from the CVS itself, or from a
tarball on xfce site, and Edscott automatically builts RPM twice a day.

If noone tries them, I doubt a RC would change things.

Cheers,
Olivier.

On Thu, 2002-04-18 at 13:14, Jasper Huijsmans wrote:
> I don't know if I'm jumping to conclusions now, but if there is indeed a 
> problem with solaris compilation that wasn't there before, wouldn't it be a 
> good idea to release a release candidate before any final release and ask 
> the xfce list to try and compile it on the platforms that we don't have 
> access to (anything except linux and freebsd I would guess).
> 
> Of course it might prove to be just a matter of old autotools versions or 
> something equally simple...
> 
> Not even 0.02 euro,
>          Jasper
> 
> 
> At 12:29 PM 4/18/02, you wrote:
> >-----Forwarded Message-----
> >
> > > From: Mike Bressem <mb at imsc.net>
> > > To: fourdan at xfce.org
> > > Subject: new release
> > > Date: 18 Apr 2002 12:29:42 +0200
> > >
> > >
> > > hi oliver,
> > >
> > > i tried to compile 3.8.16 under solaris with gcc and got the following
> > > problem. could you please tell me what i did wrong ?
> > >
> > > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/xfce-3.8.16/xftree'
> > > /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc  -g -O2 -Wall -Wno-implicit-int
> > > -L/usr/openwin/lib -o xftree  entry.o gtk_dlg.o gtk_exec.o gtk_get.o
> > > gtk_prop.o io.o reg.o top.o uri.o xtree.o xtree_dnd.o xtree_functions.o
> > > xtree_gui.o xtree_cb.o xtree_go.o xtree_misc.o xtree_du.o tubo.o
> > > xtree_mess.o xtree_cpy.o xtree_pasteboard.o xtree_toolbar.o xtree_tar.o
> > > xtree_rpm.o xtree_colorsel.o xtree_icons.o xtree_smb.o
> > > ../libs/libxfcecore.la  -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/openwin/lib
> > > -R/usr/openwin/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket
> > > -lnsl -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lgdk_pixbuf -L/usr/local/lib
> > > -L/usr/openwin/lib -R/usr/openwin/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -ldl
> > > -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm ../intl/libintl.a -liconv -lXpm
> > > -L/usr/openwin/lib -R/usr/openwin/lib -lSM -lICE -lXpm -lXpm
> > > gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wno-implicit-int -o xftree entry.o gtk_dlg.o gtk_exec.o
> > > gtk_get.o gtk_prop.o io.o reg.o top.o uri.o xtree.o xtree_dnd.o
> > > xtree_functions.o xtree_gui.o xtree_cb.o xtree_go.o xtree_misc.o
> > > xtree_du.o tubo.o xtree_mess.o xtree_cpy.o xtree_pasteboard.o
> > > xtree_toolbar.o xtree_tar.o xtree_rpm.o xtree_colorsel.o xtree_icons.o
> > > xtree_smb.o  -L/usr/openwin/lib ../libs/.libs/libxfcecore.al
> > > -L/usr/local/lib -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm -lsocket -lnsl -ldl
> > > -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm -ldl -lsocket -lnsl -ldl -ldl -lXext -lX11
> > > -lsocket -lnsl -lm -lsocket -lnsl -lXpm -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl
> > > -lm -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm -ldl -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket
> > > -lnsl -lm /usr/local/lib/libgdk_pixbuf.so -ldl -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket
> > > -lnsl -lm /usr/local/lib/libgtk.so -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm
> > > /usr/local/lib/libgdk.so -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm
> > > /usr/local/lib/libgmodule.so -ldl /usr/local/lib/libglib.so -ldl -lXext
> > > -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm ../intl/libintl.a /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so
> > > -lXpm -lSM -lICE -lXpm -lXpm -R/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib
> > > -R/usr/openwin/lib
> > > Undefined                       first referenced
> > >  symbol                             in file
> > > setenv                              xtree.o
> > > ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to xftree
> > > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> > > make[3]: *** [xftree] Error 1
> > >
> > >
> > > kind regards,
> > > mike
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike Bressem                            Internet Management GmbH
> > > ============                            Auf der Weih 2
> > >                                         35745 Herborn - Germany
> > > Never underestimate the power           Telefon +49 2772 4723 - 0
> > > of stupid people in large groups.       Telefax +49 2772 4723 - 29
> > >
> > > PGP Fingerprint : 6F 24 75 C4 AE 55 CB E0  F2 E8 D6 DB 35 37 9F EC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >--
> >Olivier               <fourdan at xfce.org>            http://www.xfce.org
> >-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >XFce is a lightweight  desktop  environment  for  various *NIX systems.
> >Designed for productivity,  it loads  and  executes  applications fast,
> >while conserving  system resources. XFce is all free software, released
> >under GNU General Public License.    Available from http://www.xfce.org
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Xfce-dev mailing list
> >Xfce-dev at moongroup.com
> >http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
-- 
Olivier               <fourdan at xfce.org>            http://www.xfce.org
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
XFce is a lightweight  desktop  environment  for  various *NIX systems.
Designed for productivity,  it loads  and  executes  applications fast,
while conserving  system resources. XFce is all free software, released
under GNU General Public License.    Available from http://www.xfce.org



From j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl  Thu Apr 18 14:32:26 2002
From: j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl (Jasper Huijsmans)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:32:26 +0200
Subject: [Fwd: new release]
In-Reply-To: <1019131142.24811.6.camel@olivier.anfora>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020418130045.009eca40@pop.hetnet.nl>
 <5.1.0.14.0.20020418130045.009eca40@pop.hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020418141850.009f1ec0@pop.hetnet.nl>

Yes, you're right, I guess.

Here's another idea: announce the imminent release also on xfce list, not 
only xfce-dev (If you do already, please ignore this). Well, maybe I'm 
making to much of this.

On a more technical note, doesn't glib provide portable functions for this 
(e.g. g_setenv(), to make a wild guess ;-) ?

Ok, now  I will shut up ;-)

         Jasper

At 01:58 PM 4/18/02, you wrote:
>Hi Jasper,
>
>The cvs snapshot is always available, from the CVS itself, or from a
>tarball on xfce site, and Edscott automatically builts RPM twice a day.
>
>If noone tries them, I doubt a RC would change things.
>
>Cheers,
>Olivier.
>
>On Thu, 2002-04-18 at 13:14, Jasper Huijsmans wrote:
> > I don't know if I'm jumping to conclusions now, but if there is indeed a
> > problem with solaris compilation that wasn't there before, wouldn't it 
> be a
> > good idea to release a release candidate before any final release and ask
> > the xfce list to try and compile it on the platforms that we don't have
> > access to (anything except linux and freebsd I would guess).
> >
> > Of course it might prove to be just a matter of old autotools versions or
> > something equally simple...
> >
> > Not even 0.02 euro,
> >          Jasper
> >
> >
> > At 12:29 PM 4/18/02, you wrote:
> > >-----Forwarded Message-----
> > >
> > > > From: Mike Bressem <mb at imsc.net>
> > > > To: fourdan at xfce.org
> > > > Subject: new release
> > > > Date: 18 Apr 2002 12:29:42 +0200
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > hi oliver,
> > > >
> > > > i tried to compile 3.8.16 under solaris with gcc and got the following
> > > > problem. could you please tell me what i did wrong ?
> > > >
> > > > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/xfce-3.8.16/xftree'
> > > > /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc  -g -O2 -Wall -Wno-implicit-int
> > > > -L/usr/openwin/lib -o xftree  entry.o gtk_dlg.o gtk_exec.o gtk_get.o
> > > > gtk_prop.o io.o reg.o top.o uri.o xtree.o xtree_dnd.o xtree_functions.o
> > > > xtree_gui.o xtree_cb.o xtree_go.o xtree_misc.o xtree_du.o tubo.o
> > > > xtree_mess.o xtree_cpy.o xtree_pasteboard.o xtree_toolbar.o xtree_tar.o
> > > > xtree_rpm.o xtree_colorsel.o xtree_icons.o xtree_smb.o
> > > > ../libs/libxfcecore.la  -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/openwin/lib
> > > > -R/usr/openwin/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXext -lX11 
> -lsocket
> > > > -lnsl -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lgdk_pixbuf -L/usr/local/lib
> > > > -L/usr/openwin/lib -R/usr/openwin/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -ldl
> > > > -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm ../intl/libintl.a -liconv -lXpm
> > > > -L/usr/openwin/lib -R/usr/openwin/lib -lSM -lICE -lXpm -lXpm
> > > > gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wno-implicit-int -o xftree entry.o gtk_dlg.o 
> gtk_exec.o
> > > > gtk_get.o gtk_prop.o io.o reg.o top.o uri.o xtree.o xtree_dnd.o
> > > > xtree_functions.o xtree_gui.o xtree_cb.o xtree_go.o xtree_misc.o
> > > > xtree_du.o tubo.o xtree_mess.o xtree_cpy.o xtree_pasteboard.o
> > > > xtree_toolbar.o xtree_tar.o xtree_rpm.o xtree_colorsel.o xtree_icons.o
> > > > xtree_smb.o  -L/usr/openwin/lib ../libs/.libs/libxfcecore.al
> > > > -L/usr/local/lib -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm -lsocket 
> -lnsl -ldl
> > > > -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm -ldl -lsocket -lnsl -ldl -ldl 
> -lXext -lX11
> > > > -lsocket -lnsl -lm -lsocket -lnsl -lXpm -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket 
> -lnsl
> > > > -lm -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm -ldl -ldl -lXext -lX11 
> -lsocket
> > > > -lnsl -lm /usr/local/lib/libgdk_pixbuf.so -ldl -ldl -lXext -lX11 
> -lsocket
> > > > -lnsl -lm /usr/local/lib/libgtk.so -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm
> > > > /usr/local/lib/libgdk.so -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm
> > > > /usr/local/lib/libgmodule.so -ldl /usr/local/lib/libglib.so -ldl -lXext
> > > > -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm ../intl/libintl.a /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so
> > > > -lXpm -lSM -lICE -lXpm -lXpm -R/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib
> > > > -R/usr/openwin/lib
> > > > Undefined                       first referenced
> > > >  symbol                             in file
> > > > setenv                              xtree.o
> > > > ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to xftree
> > > > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> > > > make[3]: *** [xftree] Error 1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > kind regards,
> > > > mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike Bressem                            Internet Management GmbH
> > > > ============                            Auf der Weih 2
> > > >                                         35745 Herborn - Germany
> > > > Never underestimate the power           Telefon +49 2772 4723 - 0
> > > > of stupid people in large groups.       Telefax +49 2772 4723 - 29
> > > >
> > > > PGP Fingerprint : 6F 24 75 C4 AE 55 CB E0  F2 E8 D6 DB 35 37 9F EC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >--
> > >Olivier               <fourdan at xfce.org>            http://www.xfce.org
> > >-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >XFce is a lightweight  desktop  environment  for  various *NIX systems.
> > >Designed for productivity,  it loads  and  executes  applications fast,
> > >while conserving  system resources. XFce is all free software, released
> > >under GNU General Public License.    Available from http://www.xfce.org
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >Xfce-dev mailing list
> > >Xfce-dev at moongroup.com
> > >http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Xfce-dev mailing list
> > Xfce-dev at moongroup.com
> > http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev
> >
>--
>Olivier               <fourdan at xfce.org>            http://www.xfce.org
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>XFce is a lightweight  desktop  environment  for  various *NIX systems.
>Designed for productivity,  it loads  and  executes  applications fast,
>while conserving  system resources. XFce is all free software, released
>under GNU General Public License.    Available from http://www.xfce.org
>
>_______________________________________________
>Xfce-dev mailing list
>Xfce-dev at moongroup.com
>http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev



From fourdan at xfce.org  Thu Apr 18 14:36:45 2002
From: fourdan at xfce.org (Olivier Fourdan)
Date: 18 Apr 2002 14:36:45 +0200
Subject: [Fwd: new release]
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020418141850.009f1ec0@pop.hetnet.nl>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020418130045.009eca40@pop.hetnet.nl>
	<5.1.0.14.0.20020418130045.009eca40@pop.hetnet.nl> 
	<5.1.0.14.0.20020418141850.009f1ec0@pop.hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <1019133435.24858.9.camel@olivier.anfora>

Hi Jasper,

> On a more technical note, doesn't glib provide portable functions for this 
> (e.g. g_setenv(), to make a wild guess ;-) ?

Yes, indeed. I guess this is a strong requirement for xfce4, always
prefer the glib equivalent to std functions.

Cheers,
-- 
Olivier               <fourdan at xfce.org>            http://www.xfce.org
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
XFce is a lightweight  desktop  environment  for  various *NIX systems.
Designed for productivity,  it loads  and  executes  applications fast,
while conserving  system resources. XFce is all free software, released
under GNU General Public License.    Available from http://www.xfce.org



From edscott at imp.mx  Thu Apr 18 17:58:27 2002
From: edscott at imp.mx (Edscott Wilson Garcia)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 09:58:27 -0600
Subject: [Fwd: new release]
In-Reply-To: <20020418112836.22120.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020418112836.22120.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200204180958.27911.edscott@imp.mx>

On Thursday 18 April 2002 05:28, K. Prasad wrote:
> As far as i know we have to use putenv instead of
> setenv in solaris

I just updated the CVS to use putenv instead of setenv. Seems setenv just 
conforms to BSD4.3 while putenv conforms to BSD4.3, POSIX and SVID 3, so it 
will also work for linux and freeBSD.

Edscott

>
> --- Jasper Huijsmans <j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl> wrote:
> > I don't know if I'm jumping to conclusions now, but
> > if there is indeed a
> > problem with solaris compilation that wasn't there
> > before, wouldn't it be a
> > good idea to release a release candidate before any
> > final release and ask
> > the xfce list to try and compile it on the platforms
> > that we don't have
> > access to (anything except linux and freebsd I would
> > guess).
> >
> > Of course it might prove to be just a matter of old
> > autotools versions or
> > something equally simple...
> >
> > Not even 0.02 euro,
> >          Jasper
> >
> > At 12:29 PM 4/18/02, you wrote:
> > >-----Forwarded Message-----
> > >
> > > > From: Mike Bressem <mb at imsc.net>
> > > > To: fourdan at xfce.org
> > > > Subject: new release
> > > > Date: 18 Apr 2002 12:29:42 +0200
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > hi oliver,
> > > >
> > > > i tried to compile 3.8.16 under solaris with gcc
> >
> > and got the following
> >
> > > > problem. could you please tell me what i did
> >
> > wrong ?
> >
> > > > make[3]: Entering directory
> >
> > `/usr/local/src/xfce-3.8.16/xftree'
> >
> > > > /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc  -g -O2 -Wall
> >
> > -Wno-implicit-int
> >
> > > > -L/usr/openwin/lib -o xftree  entry.o gtk_dlg.o
> >
> > gtk_exec.o gtk_get.o
> >
> > > > gtk_prop.o io.o reg.o top.o uri.o xtree.o
> >
> > xtree_dnd.o xtree_functions.o
> >
> > > > xtree_gui.o xtree_cb.o xtree_go.o xtree_misc.o
> >
> > xtree_du.o tubo.o
> >
> > > > xtree_mess.o xtree_cpy.o xtree_pasteboard.o
> >
> > xtree_toolbar.o xtree_tar.o
> >
> > > > xtree_rpm.o xtree_colorsel.o xtree_icons.o
> >
> > xtree_smb.o
> >
> > > > ../libs/libxfcecore.la  -L/usr/local/lib
> >
> > -L/usr/openwin/lib
> >
> > > > -R/usr/openwin/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib
> >
> > -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket
> >
> > > > -lnsl -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lgdk_pixbuf
> >
> > -L/usr/local/lib
> >
> > > > -L/usr/openwin/lib -R/usr/openwin/lib -lgtk
> >
> > -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -ldl
> >
> > > > -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm
> >
> > ../intl/libintl.a -liconv -lXpm
> >
> > > > -L/usr/openwin/lib -R/usr/openwin/lib -lSM -lICE
> >
> > -lXpm -lXpm
> >
> > > > gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wno-implicit-int -o xftree
> >
> > entry.o gtk_dlg.o gtk_exec.o
> >
> > > > gtk_get.o gtk_prop.o io.o reg.o top.o uri.o
> >
> > xtree.o xtree_dnd.o
> >
> > > > xtree_functions.o xtree_gui.o xtree_cb.o
> >
> > xtree_go.o xtree_misc.o
> >
> > > > xtree_du.o tubo.o xtree_mess.o xtree_cpy.o
> >
> > xtree_pasteboard.o
> >
> > > > xtree_toolbar.o xtree_tar.o xtree_rpm.o
> >
> > xtree_colorsel.o xtree_icons.o
> >
> > > > xtree_smb.o  -L/usr/openwin/lib
> >
> > ../libs/.libs/libxfcecore.al
> >
> > > > -L/usr/local/lib -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket
> >
> > -lnsl -lm -lsocket -lnsl -ldl
> >
> > > > -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm -ldl -lsocket
> >
> > -lnsl -ldl -ldl -lXext -lX11
> >
> > > > -lsocket -lnsl -lm -lsocket -lnsl -lXpm -ldl
> >
> > -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl
> >
> > > > -lm -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm -ldl
> >
> > -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket
> >
> > > > -lnsl -lm /usr/local/lib/libgdk_pixbuf.so -ldl
> >
> > -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lsocket
> >
> > > > -lnsl -lm /usr/local/lib/libgtk.so -ldl -lXext
> >
> > -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm
> >
> > > > /usr/local/lib/libgdk.so -ldl -lXext -lX11
> >
> > -lsocket -lnsl -lm
> >
> > > > /usr/local/lib/libgmodule.so -ldl
> >
> > /usr/local/lib/libglib.so -ldl -lXext
> >
> > > > -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -lm ../intl/libintl.a
> >
> > /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so
> >
> > > > -lXpm -lSM -lICE -lXpm -lXpm -R/usr/local/lib
> >
> > -R/usr/local/lib
> >
> > > > -R/usr/openwin/lib
> > > > Undefined                       first referenced
> > > >  symbol                             in file
> > > > setenv                              xtree.o
> > > > ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output
> >
> > written to xftree
> >
> > > > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> > > > make[3]: *** [xftree] Error 1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > kind regards,
> > > > mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike Bressem                            Internet
> >
> > Management GmbH
> >
> > > > ============                            Auf der
> >
> > Weih 2
> >
> > > >                                         35745
> >
> > Herborn - Germany
> >
> > > > Never underestimate the power           Telefon
> >
> > +49 2772 4723 - 0
> >
> > > > of stupid people in large groups.       Telefax
> >
> > +49 2772 4723 - 29
> >
> > > > PGP Fingerprint : 6F 24 75 C4 AE 55 CB E0  F2 E8
> >
> > D6 DB 35 37 9F EC
> >
> > >--
> > >Olivier               <fourdan at xfce.org>
> >
> > http://www.xfce.org
> >
> >-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > >XFce is a lightweight  desktop  environment  for
> >
> > various *NIX systems.
> >
> > >Designed for productivity,  it loads  and  executes
> >
> >  applications fast,
> >
> > >while conserving  system resources. XFce is all
> >
> > free software, released
> >
> > >under GNU General Public License.    Available from
> >
> > http://www.xfce.org
> >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >Xfce-dev mailing list
> > >Xfce-dev at moongroup.com
> > >http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Xfce-dev mailing list
> > Xfce-dev at moongroup.com
> > http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev
>
> __________________________________________________
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-- 
saludos,

Edscott


From d726f6e at sdf.lonestar.org  Fri Apr 19 03:19:24 2002
From: d726f6e at sdf.lonestar.org (Dmitry DELTA Malykhanov)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 01:19:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Compiling Problems on Solaris (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.44.0204190117500.22274-100000@otaku.freeshell.org>

Hi,

Here goes the question: do we really need all those tricks with aclocal
and automake in the Makefile? I guess the regular user, who just wants
to build tarball, doesn't need all that stuff, configure should be enough
for him.

And if we really need all those tricks, can we at least ask configure
script to verify automake version?

Thanks.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 18:13:29 -0500
From: "Edscott Wilson [iso-8859-1] Garc?a" <edscott at imp.mx>
Reply-To: xfce at moongroup.com
To: xfce at moongroup.com
Subject: Re: Compiling Problems on Solaris

On Jue 18 Abr 2002 17:20, Dmitry DELTA Malykhanov wrote:
> Does someone, who just wants to build xfce from the tarball, really need
> automake? And if particular version 1.4-p5 is really required (since 1.5
> may not work too), why not to use configure script to check it?

I'm not really sure. You might want to post your question to Guido on the
xfce-devel list. Guido did wonders with the configure script so that now
large-file support is enabled on 32 bit systems and rpm building is a breeze.

Edscott

>
> On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Edscott Wilson Garcia wrote:
> > On Thursday 18 April 2002 13:21, Dmitry DELTA Malykhanov wrote:
> > > aclocal: configure.in: 68: macro `AM_GNU_GETTEXT' not found in library
> > > make: *** [aclocal.m4] Error 1
> > >
> > > SunOS 5.7, autoconf 2.13, automake 1.4, 'make' is gnu make 3.79.1
> >
> > I think you need automake-1.4p5 to do the trick. If you go to
> > automake-1.5 things don't work well either (at least for me).
> >
> > Edscott

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From chris.fuhrman at tfcci.com  Fri Apr 19 14:08:37 2002
From: chris.fuhrman at tfcci.com (Chris Fuhrman)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 08:08:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: XFce 3.8.16 --- some good news
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204190807030.4237-100000@icestorm.tfcc.com>

It gives me great pleasure to report that XFce 3.8.16 compiles under
OpenBSD/i386 3.0.

I'll be trying the latest snapshot on the Solaris box later today.

-- 
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(W) 614-442-1215 x271   |
(F) 614-442-5662        | PGP/GPG Public Key Available on Request



From mb at imsc.net  Fri Apr 19 17:03:21 2002
From: mb at imsc.net (Mike Bressem)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 17:03:21 +0200
Subject: release 3.8.16
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.4.10.10204191702350.735-100000@schlumpf.bressem.com>

hi,

will there be a release like 3.8.16a after the solaris bug has been fixed
?

regards,
mike


Mike Bressem                            Internet Management GmbH
============                            Auf der Weih 2
                                        35745 Herborn - Germany
Never underestimate the power           Telefon +49 2772 4723 - 0
of stupid people in large groups.       Telefax +49 2772 4723 - 29

PGP Fingerprint : 6F 24 75 C4 AE 55 CB E0  F2 E8 D6 DB 35 37 9F EC




From fourdan at xfce.org  Fri Apr 19 16:59:37 2002
From: fourdan at xfce.org (Olivier Fourdan)
Date: 19 Apr 2002 16:59:37 +0200
Subject: release 3.8.16
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SGI.4.10.10204191702350.735-100000@schlumpf.bressem.com>
References: <Pine.SGI.4.10.10204191702350.735-100000@schlumpf.bressem.com>
Message-ID: <1019228407.4608.23.camel@olivier.anfora>

Yes, I'll do it quickly ;-)

Cheers,
Olivier.

On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 17:03, Mike Bressem wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> will there be a release like 3.8.16a after the solaris bug has been fixed
> ?
> 
> regards,
> mike
> 
> 
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> ============                            Auf der Weih 2
>                                         35745 Herborn - Germany
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> of stupid people in large groups.       Telefax +49 2772 4723 - 29
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From klemmerj at webtrek.com  Fri Apr 19 17:14:12 2002
From: klemmerj at webtrek.com (Joe Klemmer)
Date: 19 Apr 2002 11:14:12 -0400
Subject: release 3.8.16
In-Reply-To: <1019228407.4608.23.camel@olivier.anfora>
References: <Pine.SGI.4.10.10204191702350.735-100000@schlumpf.bressem.com> 
	<1019228407.4608.23.camel@olivier.anfora>
Message-ID: <1019229253.6159.9.camel@emperor>

On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 10:59, Olivier Fourdan wrote:

> Yes, I'll do it quickly ;-)

	Just in case...

	Under the XFce logo it says, "By Olivier Fourdan (c) 1997-2000" and the
second line in the text area says, "Copyright (C) 1997-2001 Olivier
Fourdan (fourdan at xfce.org)".  I believe that these should both be
1997-2002 at this point.

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From mb at imsc.net  Fri Apr 19 17:18:02 2002
From: mb at imsc.net (Mike Bressem)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 17:18:02 +0200
Subject: release 3.8.16
In-Reply-To: <1019229253.6159.9.camel@emperor>
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.4.10.10204191717020.735-100000@schlumpf.bressem.com>

On 19 Apr 2002, Joe Klemmer wrote:

> On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 10:59, Olivier Fourdan wrote:
> 
> > Yes, I'll do it quickly ;-)
> 
> 	Just in case...
> 
> 	Under the XFce logo it says, "By Olivier Fourdan (c) 1997-2000" and the
> second line in the text area says, "Copyright (C) 1997-2001 Olivier
> Fourdan (fourdan at xfce.org)".  I believe that these should both be
> 1997-2002 at this point.

this surely would help in some cases :)


Mike Bressem                            Internet Management GmbH
============                            Auf der Weih 2
                                        35745 Herborn - Germany
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of stupid people in large groups.       Telefax +49 2772 4723 - 29

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From edscott at imp.mx  Fri Apr 19 18:18:48 2002
From: edscott at imp.mx (Edscott Wilson =?iso-8859-1?q?Garc=EDa?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 11:18:48 -0500
Subject: release 3.8.16
In-Reply-To: <1019228407.4608.23.camel@olivier.anfora>
References: <Pine.SGI.4.10.10204191702350.735-100000@schlumpf.bressem.com> <1019228407.4608.23.camel@olivier.anfora>
Message-ID: <200204191118.48145.edscott@imp.mx>

I just discovered that the "filter" option for files in xftree does not work 
well with NFS mounted volumes. I'll try to get it fixed (if possible) today 
so that it can get into 3.8.16a.

Edscott

On Vie 19 Abr 2002 09:59, Olivier Fourdan wrote:
> Yes, I'll do it quickly ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Olivier.
>
> On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 17:03, Mike Bressem wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > will there be a release like 3.8.16a after the solaris bug has been fixed
> > ?
> >
> > regards,
> > mike
> >
> >
> > Mike Bressem                            Internet Management GmbH
> > ============                            Auf der Weih 2
> >                                         35745 Herborn - Germany
> > Never underestimate the power           Telefon +49 2772 4723 - 0
> > of stupid people in large groups.       Telefax +49 2772 4723 - 29
> >
> > PGP Fingerprint : 6F 24 75 C4 AE 55 CB E0  F2 E8 D6 DB 35 37 9F EC
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Xfce-dev mailing list
> > Xfce-dev at moongroup.com
> > http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev



From edscott at imp.mx  Fri Apr 19 20:07:21 2002
From: edscott at imp.mx (Edscott Wilson =?iso-8859-1?q?Garc=EDa?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 13:07:21 -0500
Subject: release 3.8.16
In-Reply-To: <200204191118.48145.edscott@imp.mx>
References: <Pine.SGI.4.10.10204191702350.735-100000@schlumpf.bressem.com> <1019228407.4608.23.camel@olivier.anfora> <200204191118.48145.edscott@imp.mx>
Message-ID: <200204191307.21205.edscott@imp.mx>

On Vie 19 Abr 2002 11:18, Edscott Wilson Garc?a wrote:
> I just discovered that the "filter" option for files in xftree does not
> work well with NFS mounted volumes. I'll try to get it fixed (if possible)
> today so that it can get into 3.8.16a.

It's a bug in gcc. It seems that the GLOB_ONLYDIR does not work for nfs 
mounted volumes. The filter option *will* work correctly when both 
directories and files are filtered for nfs volumes. I guess it is best to tag 
this as a "known bug" and think up a workaround for xfce4.

Edscott


>
> On Vie 19 Abr 2002 09:59, Olivier Fourdan wrote:
> > Yes, I'll do it quickly ;-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Olivier.
> >
> > On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 17:03, Mike Bressem wrote:
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > will there be a release like 3.8.16a after the solaris bug has been
> > > fixed ?
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > mike
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike Bressem                            Internet Management GmbH
> > > ============                            Auf der Weih 2
> > >                                         35745 Herborn - Germany
> > > Never underestimate the power           Telefon +49 2772 4723 - 0
> > > of stupid people in large groups.       Telefax +49 2772 4723 - 29
> > >
> > > PGP Fingerprint : 6F 24 75 C4 AE 55 CB E0  F2 E8 D6 DB 35 37 9F EC
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > Xfce-dev at moongroup.com
> > > http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev
>
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From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Fri Apr 19 20:31:28 2002
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 19:31:28 +0100 (BST)
Subject: release 3.8.16
In-Reply-To: <200204191307.21205.edscott@imp.mx> from "Edscott Wilson =?iso-8859-1?q?Garc=EDa?=" at Apr 19, 2002 01:07:21 PM
Message-ID: <E16ydAO-0007dC-00@the-village.bc.nu>

> It's a bug in gcc. It seems that the GLOB_ONLYDIR does not work for nfs 

glibc or kernel maybe. NFSv3 provides type hinting in directory data so
its more likely a kernel/nfs thing that anything else


From edscott at imp.mx  Sun Apr 21 05:51:39 2002
From: edscott at imp.mx (Edscott Wilson =?iso-8859-1?q?Garc=EDa?=)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 22:51:39 -0500
Subject: release 3.8.16
In-Reply-To: <E16ydAO-0007dC-00@the-village.bc.nu>
References: <E16ydAO-0007dC-00@the-village.bc.nu>
Message-ID: <200204202251.39898.edscott@imp.mx>

On Vie 19 Abr 2002 13:31, Alan Cox wrote:
> > It's a bug in gcc. It seems that the GLOB_ONLYDIR does not work for nfs
>
> glibc or kernel maybe. NFSv3 provides type hinting in directory data so
> its more likely a kernel/nfs thing that anything else

I checked with freeBSD 4.4, to verify how the kernel was working. FreeBSD has 
a similar problem, but not the same. The GLOB_ONLYDIR produces a null output 
for glob for both local and nfs volumes, so the xftree output does not seem 
strange, only the "dirs" and "files" filter checkbuttons don't do anything.

I verified same results for the GLOB_ONLYDIR with nfs-volumes with RH-7.2 
out-of-the-box kernel and a 2.4.18 vanilla with the same results.

Edscott
 
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From j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl  Tue Apr 23 14:51:35 2002
From: j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl (Jasper Huijsmans)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:51:35 +0200
Subject: automake macro [Was: Re: Compiling Problems on Solaris (fwd)]
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.4.44.0204190117500.22274-100000@otaku.freeshell.o
 rg>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020423144541.009eb450@pop.hetnet.nl>

Hi all,

it seems that to prevent make from rebuilding all generated files you have
to add this macro to configure.in :

AM_MAINTAINER_MODE

does this work / is this something we want?

Jasper

At 03:19 AM 4/19/02, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Here goes the question: do we really need all those tricks with aclocal
>and automake in the Makefile? I guess the regular user, who just wants
>to build tarball, doesn't need all that stuff, configure should be enough
>for him.
>
>And if we really need all those tricks, can we at least ask configure
>script to verify automake version?
>
>Thanks.
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 18:13:29 -0500
>From: "Edscott Wilson [iso-8859-1] Garc?a" <edscott at imp.mx>
>Reply-To: xfce at moongroup.com
>To: xfce at moongroup.com
>Subject: Re: Compiling Problems on Solaris
>
>On Jue 18 Abr 2002 17:20, Dmitry DELTA Malykhanov wrote:
> > Does someone, who just wants to build xfce from the tarball, really need
> > automake? And if particular version 1.4-p5 is really required (since 1.5
> > may not work too), why not to use configure script to check it?
>
>I'm not really sure. You might want to post your question to Guido on the
>xfce-devel list. Guido did wonders with the configure script so that now
>large-file support is enabled on 32 bit systems and rpm building is a breeze.
>
>Edscott
>
> >
> > On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Edscott Wilson Garcia wrote:
> > > On Thursday 18 April 2002 13:21, Dmitry DELTA Malykhanov wrote:
> > > > aclocal: configure.in: 68: macro `AM_GNU_GETTEXT' not found in library
> > > > make: *** [aclocal.m4] Error 1
> > > >
> > > > SunOS 5.7, autoconf 2.13, automake 1.4, 'make' is gnu make 3.79.1
> > >
> > > I think you need automake-1.4p5 to do the trick. If you go to
> > > automake-1.5 things don't work well either (at least for me).
> > >
> > > Edscott
>
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From j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl  Wed Apr 24 00:10:28 2002
From: j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl (Jasper Huijsmans)
Date: 23 Apr 2002 22:10:28 +0000
Subject: minor autoconf/automake annoyances
Message-ID: <1019599834.31642.68.camel@unimatrix001>

By no means am I an expert on automake issues, so I may be talking utter
nonsense here.
Also, most/all of the things I found may be caused by my use of
slackware-current tools: autoconf 2.53, automake 1.5, gettext 0.11.
Anyway, I found the following 'problems':

1) make regenerates files (see earlier post on the subject). This can
suposedly be changed by putting AM_MAINTAINER_MODE in configure.in. It
seems to work for me.

2) If you do a make clean after configure, make quits with an error
about a lot of missing .dep/* files. This seems a bit strange to me.

3) automake has two errors about noinst_DATA not being defined in
xfglob/icons/Makefile.am and xfwm/Makfile.am.
This can be solved by moving the definitions up before the use of the
variable.

4) make fails in po/ because @CATALOGS@ and @POFILES@ are
not expanded by configure. I'm guessing that it's a problem with
gettext, but --with-included-gettext doesn't seem to work for me.
BTW, on a side-note, gettext also complains about empty strings marked
for translation in xfce/xtree_toolbar.c and xfsamba/xfsamba_gui.c.


I can change 1) and 3) in CVS if you want. I have no idea whether 2) and
4) are caused by my setup or something else.

greetings,
	Jasper



From edscott at imp.mx  Tue Apr 23 22:26:06 2002
From: edscott at imp.mx (Edscott Wilson Garcia)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:26:06 -0600
Subject: minor autoconf/automake annoyances
In-Reply-To: <1019599834.31642.68.camel@unimatrix001>
References: <1019599834.31642.68.camel@unimatrix001>
Message-ID: <200204231426.06375.edscott@imp.mx>

On Tuesday 23 April 2002 16:10, Jasper Huijsmans wrote:
> By no means am I an expert on automake issues, so I may be talking utter
> nonsense here.

That makes at least two of us ;-)

Some time ago I tried automake 1.5 and it didn't work right. AFAIR, Guido said 
something about it being broken. Although I do get some AM_this_and_that 
warnings, automake-1.4p5 works ok here.

> Also, most/all of the things I found may be caused by my use of
> slackware-current tools: autoconf 2.53, automake 1.5, gettext 0.11.
> Anyway, I found the following 'problems':
>
> 1) make regenerates files (see earlier post on the subject). This can
> suposedly be changed by putting AM_MAINTAINER_MODE in configure.in. It
> seems to work for me.
>
> 2) If you do a make clean after configure, make quits with an error
> about a lot of missing .dep/* files. This seems a bit strange to me.
>
> 3) automake has two errors about noinst_DATA not being defined in
> xfglob/icons/Makefile.am and xfwm/Makfile.am.
> This can be solved by moving the definitions up before the use of the
> variable.
>
> 4) make fails in po/ because @CATALOGS@ and @POFILES@ are
> not expanded by configure. I'm guessing that it's a problem with
> gettext, but --with-included-gettext doesn't seem to work for me.
> BTW, on a side-note, gettext also complains about empty strings marked
> for translation in xfce/xtree_toolbar.c and xfsamba/xfsamba_gui.c.
>
>
> I can change 1) and 3) in CVS if you want. I have no idea whether 2) and
> 4) are caused by my setup or something else.

If the changes make it work with automake 1.5 without breaking the way it 
works with automake 1.4p5, I can think of no good reason why not to commit.

saludos,

Edscott



From j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl  Wed Apr 24 01:08:03 2002
From: j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl (Jasper Huijsmans)
Date: 23 Apr 2002 23:08:03 +0000
Subject: minor autoconf/automake annoyances
In-Reply-To: <200204231426.06375.edscott@imp.mx>
References: <1019599834.31642.68.camel@unimatrix001> 
	<200204231426.06375.edscott@imp.mx>
Message-ID: <1019603285.31642.81.camel@unimatrix001>

I'm afraid I can't confirm that it works with the older versions.

On the other hand, I think I found my gettext problem:

At the end of configure.in there is a sed command on po/Makefile.in to
po/Makefile.
However, po/Makefile is already created by configure! If I commant out
this line I get the proper result.

Am I the only one with this problem?

Op di 23-04-2002, om 20:26 schreef Edscott Wilson Garcia:
> On Tuesday 23 April 2002 16:10, Jasper Huijsmans wrote:
> > By no means am I an expert on automake issues, so I may be talking utter
> > nonsense here.
> 
> That makes at least two of us ;-)
> 
> Some time ago I tried automake 1.5 and it didn't work right. AFAIR, Guido said 
> something about it being broken. Although I do get some AM_this_and_that 
> warnings, automake-1.4p5 works ok here.
> 
> > Also, most/all of the things I found may be caused by my use of
> > slackware-current tools: autoconf 2.53, automake 1.5, gettext 0.11.
> > Anyway, I found the following 'problems':
> >
> > 1) make regenerates files (see earlier post on the subject). This can
> > suposedly be changed by putting AM_MAINTAINER_MODE in configure.in. It
> > seems to work for me.
> >
> > 2) If you do a make clean after configure, make quits with an error
> > about a lot of missing .dep/* files. This seems a bit strange to me.
> >
> > 3) automake has two errors about noinst_DATA not being defined in
> > xfglob/icons/Makefile.am and xfwm/Makfile.am.
> > This can be solved by moving the definitions up before the use of the
> > variable.
> >
> > 4) make fails in po/ because @CATALOGS@ and @POFILES@ are
> > not expanded by configure. I'm guessing that it's a problem with
> > gettext, but --with-included-gettext doesn't seem to work for me.
> > BTW, on a side-note, gettext also complains about empty strings marked
> > for translation in xfce/xtree_toolbar.c and xfsamba/xfsamba_gui.c.
> >
> >
> > I can change 1) and 3) in CVS if you want. I have no idea whether 2) and
> > 4) are caused by my setup or something else.
> 
> If the changes make it work with automake 1.5 without breaking the way it 
> works with automake 1.4p5, I can think of no good reason why not to commit.
> 
> saludos,
> 
> Edscott
> 
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From guidod-2002- at gmx.de  Wed Apr 24 01:45:33 2002
From: guidod-2002- at gmx.de (Guido Draheim)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 01:45:33 +0200
Subject: minor autoconf/automake annoyances
References: <1019599834.31642.68.camel@unimatrix001> 
		<200204231426.06375.edscott@imp.mx> <1019603285.31642.81.camel@unimatrix001>
Message-ID: <3CC5F21D.82FF4C08@gmx.de>

Es schrieb Jasper Huijsmans:
> 
> I'm afraid I can't confirm that it works with the older versions.
> 
> On the other hand, I think I found my gettext problem:
> 
> At the end of configure.in there is a sed command on po/Makefile.in to
> po/Makefile.
> However, po/Makefile is already created by configure! If I commant out
> this line I get the proper result.

interesting.

> 
> Am I the only one with this problem?

never notice. I just saw that the po-makerules were triggered a lot
more often than necessary...

> 
> Op di 23-04-2002, om 20:26 schreef Edscott Wilson Garcia:
> > On Tuesday 23 April 2002 16:10, Jasper Huijsmans wrote:
> > > By no means am I an expert on automake issues, so I may be talking utter
> > > nonsense here.
> >
> > That makes at least two of us ;-)
> >
> > Some time ago I tried automake 1.5 and it didn't work right. AFAIR, Guido said
> > something about it being broken. Although I do get some AM_this_and_that
> > warnings, automake-1.4p5 works ok here.

you can safely ignore those - some macros where shuffled from this
to that but autoconf can sort it out after all...

> >
> > > Also, most/all of the things I found may be caused by my use of
> > > slackware-current tools: autoconf 2.53, automake 1.5, gettext 0.11.
> > > Anyway, I found the following 'problems':
> > >
> > > 1) make regenerates files (see earlier post on the subject). This can
> > > suposedly be changed by putting AM_MAINTAINER_MODE in configure.in. It
> > > seems to work for me.

hmm, I use am_maintainer_mode quite often but I am no pleased either
with the current behaviour.... it should work anyway...

> > >
> > > 2) If you do a make clean after configure, make quits with an error
> > > about a lot of missing .dep/* files. This seems a bit strange to me.

Woow, another interesting case. the configure will create the dep-files
but there is an explicit entry in the makefile.am's (being remainings
from earlier versions) that remove these files. May be, these .deps
in CLEANFILES should be removed instead...

> > >
> > > 3) automake has two errors about noinst_DATA not being defined in
> > > xfglob/icons/Makefile.am and xfwm/Makfile.am.
> > > This can be solved by moving the definitions up before the use of the
> > > variable.

ooops ... but look closer, it does even remove the noinst_DATA from
the final Makefile. however, it shouldn't be a problem if it comes
later, what the *real* problem is... aahmm.... did you notice the
backslash-newline-escape just before the end of the file itself?
... just do something about it and... and it works :-)=)

> > >
> > > 4) make fails in po/ because @CATALOGS@ and @POFILES@ are
> > > not expanded by configure. I'm guessing that it's a problem with
> > > gettext, but --with-included-gettext doesn't seem to work for me.
> > > BTW, on a side-note, gettext also complains about empty strings marked
> > > for translation in xfce/xtree_toolbar.c and xfsamba/xfsamba_gui.c.
> > >

dunno about that.... po is not my type of autotoolish stuff...

> > >
> > > I can change 1) and 3) in CVS if you want. I have no idea whether 2) and
> > > 4) are caused by my setup or something else.
> >
> > If the changes make it work with automake 1.5 without breaking the way it
> > works with automake 1.4p5, I can think of no good reason why not to commit.
> >

the makefiles can indeed be made compatible for 1.4p5 *and* 1.5,
what's not that easy would be to make everything compatible from
2.13 up to 2.53...

... btw, I don't like 2.53, please use 2.52 or one of the updates for 2.53.
Use 2.53 or later if you want a feature from automake 1.6...


(btw, sorry for not reading the mailinglist regularly, too busy in other
 areas for the moment).

have fun, guido


From j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl  Wed Apr 24 09:05:29 2002
From: j.b.huijsmans at hetnet.nl (Jasper Huijsmans)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:05:29 +0200
Subject: minor autoconf/automake annoyances
In-Reply-To: <3CC5F21D.82FF4C08@gmx.de>
References: <1019599834.31642.68.camel@unimatrix001>
 <200204231426.06375.edscott@imp.mx>
 <1019603285.31642.81.camel@unimatrix001>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020424085241.009fa410@pop.hetnet.nl>

At 01:45 AM 4/24/02, you wrote:
>Es schrieb Jasper Huijsmans:
> >
> > I'm afraid I can't confirm that it works with the older versions.
> >
> > On the other hand, I think I found my gettext problem:
> >
> > At the end of configure.in there is a sed command on po/Makefile.in to
> > po/Makefile.
> > However, po/Makefile is already created by configure! If I commant out
> > this line I get the proper result.
>
>interesting.
>
> >
> > Am I the only one with this problem?
>
>never notice. I just saw that the po-makerules were triggered a lot
>more often than necessary...

Actually I was thinking, shouldn't all those sed commands be replaced with 
their autoconf equivalents (AC_SUBST(var) and AC_OUTPUT (file)).

> >
> > Op di 23-04-2002, om 20:26 schreef Edscott Wilson Garcia:
> > > On Tuesday 23 April 2002 16:10, Jasper Huijsmans wrote:
> > > > By no means am I an expert on automake issues, so I may be talking 
> utter
> > > > nonsense here.
> > >
> > > That makes at least two of us ;-)
> > >
> > > Some time ago I tried automake 1.5 and it didn't work right. AFAIR, 
> Guido said
> > > something about it being broken. Although I do get some AM_this_and_that
> > > warnings, automake-1.4p5 works ok here.
>
>you can safely ignore those - some macros where shuffled from this
>to that but autoconf can sort it out after all...
>
> > >
> > > > Also, most/all of the things I found may be caused by my use of
> > > > slackware-current tools: autoconf 2.53, automake 1.5, gettext 0.11.
> > > > Anyway, I found the following 'problems':
> > > >
> > > > 1) make regenerates files (see earlier post on the subject). This can
> > > > suposedly be changed by putting AM_MAINTAINER_MODE in configure.in. It
> > > > seems to work for me.
>
>hmm, I use am_maintainer_mode quite often but I am no pleased either
>with the current behaviour.... it should work anyway...

It does work, it only runs al autotools again. I read in the documentation 
that it is suposed to do that unless AM_MAINTAINER_MODE is used. Maybe I 
misread it.

> > > >
> > > > 2) If you do a make clean after configure, make quits with an error
> > > > about a lot of missing .dep/* files. This seems a bit strange to me.
>
>Woow, another interesting case. the configure will create the dep-files
>but there is an explicit entry in the makefile.am's (being remainings
>from earlier versions) that remove these files. May be, these .deps
>in CLEANFILES should be removed instead...
>
> > > >
> > > > 3) automake has two errors about noinst_DATA not being defined in
> > > > xfglob/icons/Makefile.am and xfwm/Makfile.am.
> > > > This can be solved by moving the definitions up before the use of the
> > > > variable.
>
>ooops ... but look closer, it does even remove the noinst_DATA from
>the final Makefile. however, it shouldn't be a problem if it comes
>later, what the *real* problem is... aahmm.... did you notice the
>backslash-newline-escape just before the end of the file itself?
>... just do something about it and... and it works :-)=)

Right, I saw those and removed them. I didn't think it would matter. Well 
this is even easier then.

> > > >
> > > > 4) make fails in po/ because @CATALOGS@ and @POFILES@ are
> > > > not expanded by configure. I'm guessing that it's a problem with
> > > > gettext, but --with-included-gettext doesn't seem to work for me.
> > > > BTW, on a side-note, gettext also complains about empty strings marked
> > > > for translation in xfce/xtree_toolbar.c and xfsamba/xfsamba_gui.c.
> > > >
>
>dunno about that.... po is not my type of autotoolish stuff...

This was solved by removing the sed line at the end of config.in.

> > > >
> > > > I can change 1) and 3) in CVS if you want. I have no idea whether 
> 2) and
> > > > 4) are caused by my setup or something else.
> > >
> > > If the changes make it work with automake 1.5 without breaking the way it
> > > works with automake 1.4p5, I can think of no good reason why not to 
> commit.
> > >
>
>the makefiles can indeed be made compatible for 1.4p5 *and* 1.5,
>what's not that easy would be to make everything compatible from
>2.13 up to 2.53...
>
>... btw, I don't like 2.53, please use 2.52 or one of the updates for 2.53.
>Use 2.53 or later if you want a feature from automake 1.6...

I don't particularly want to use any version. It's just that they came with 
slackware-current and that's what I installed. And I'm always willing to 
try new versions. I knew there would probably be difficulties, so all this 
is partly (mostly) my own fault.

However when I installed automake-1.4p4 and autoconf-2.50 from slack-8 I 
got a warning about 'library being used but LIBTOOL not defined' in 
lib/Makefile.am. Maybe autoconf 2.13 will work.


>(btw, sorry for not reading the mailinglist regularly, too busy in other
>  areas for the moment).

Thanks for the answers. And ...

>have fun, guido

... I always have when playing with xfce :-).

Jasper



From edscott at imp.mx  Sat Apr 27 00:06:00 2002
From: edscott at imp.mx (Edscott Wilson =?iso-8859-1?q?Garc=EDa?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 17:06:00 -0500
Subject: xftree bug fixes
Message-ID: <200204261706.00320.edscott@imp.mx>

I fixed a couple bugs in the tar expansion for xftree. These were most 
noticeable with tarfiles which include symlinks, or using FreeBSD.
I also changed the release number in the xfce.spec file from 1 to 2 so that 
the RPM and SRPM built at http://linux.imp.mx/cvs-tmp is now xfce-3.8.16-2.

Edscott


From edscott at imp.mx  Sun Apr 28 18:13:17 2002
From: edscott at imp.mx (Edscott Wilson =?iso-8859-1?q?Garc=EDa?=)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 11:13:17 -0500
Subject: another bugfix for xftree.
Message-ID: <200204281113.17932.edscott@imp.mx>

I was just checking some xftree problems on FreeBSD and discovered that a typo 
of six weeks ago reappeared. After checking the CVS history I found that the 
typo was in two places, not one. Now both are corrected. The typo causes  
problemas on startup, like a crash, YMMV. I believe this is could be the 
problem experienced by the user who has trouble with xfce from 3.8.16 but not 
with 3.8.14.

Edscott



From csm at MoonGroup.com  Sun Apr 28 19:41:49 2002
From: csm at MoonGroup.com (Chuck Mead)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:41:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: possible bug in 3.8.16
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204281339440.7352-100000@stealth.moongroup.org>

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I have been running 3.8.16 since it was released and I have an
occasional problem which is similar to the old race condition which
occurred when switching desks. It doesn't happen all the time but every
once in a while XFce does an autonomous restart whil switching desktops.

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I'll pay you $10 million a year to torture Microsoft."   --Steve Ballmer
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From fourdan at xfce.org  Sun Apr 28 21:34:04 2002
From: fourdan at xfce.org (Olivier Fourdan)
Date: 28 Apr 2002 21:34:04 +0200
Subject: possible bug in 3.8.16
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204281339440.7352-100000@stealth.moongroup.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204281339440.7352-100000@stealth.moongroup.org>
Message-ID: <1020022445.1227.2.camel@localhost>

Hi Chuck,

No changed occured in xfwm for a while so I doubt it's new.

Anyway, almost 100% of the work in now on xfwm4.

Cheers,
Olivier.

On Sun, 2002-04-28 at 19:41, Chuck Mead wrote:
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> I have been running 3.8.16 since it was released and I have an
> occasional problem which is similar to the old race condition which
> occurred when switching desks. It doesn't happen all the time but every
> once in a while XFce does an autonomous restart whil switching desktops.
> 
> - -- 
> csm
> 
> "Look, I want to make Microsoft's life miserable; so I'll tell you what,
> I'll pay you $10 million a year to torture Microsoft."   --Steve Ballmer
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while conserving  system resources. XFce is all free software, released
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From klemmerj at webtrek.com  Mon Apr 29 02:20:45 2002
From: klemmerj at webtrek.com (Joe Klemmer)
Date: 28 Apr 2002 20:20:45 -0400
Subject: possible bug in 3.8.16
In-Reply-To: <1020022445.1227.2.camel@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204281339440.7352-100000@stealth.moongroup.org>
	 <1020022445.1227.2.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1020039645.11432.123.camel@emperor>

On Sun, 2002-04-28 at 15:34, Olivier Fourdan wrote:

> No changed occured in xfwm for a while so I doubt it's new.
> 
> Anyway, almost 100% of the work in now on xfwm4.

	i.e. XFce3 is dead-end now.   :-P

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From edscott at imp.mx  Mon Apr 29 03:21:25 2002
From: edscott at imp.mx (Edscott Wilson =?iso-8859-1?q?Garc=EDa?=)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 20:21:25 -0500
Subject: possible bug in 3.8.16
In-Reply-To: <1020039645.11432.123.camel@emperor>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204281339440.7352-100000@stealth.moongroup.org> <1020022445.1227.2.camel@localhost> <1020039645.11432.123.camel@emperor>
Message-ID: <200204282021.25896.edscott@imp.mx>

On Dom 28 Abr 2002 19:20, Joe Klemmer wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-04-28 at 15:34, Olivier Fourdan wrote:
> > No changed occured in xfwm for a while so I doubt it's new.
> >
> > Anyway, almost 100% of the work in now on xfwm4.
>
> 	i.e. XFce3 is dead-end now.   :-P

I think there could be a transitional period. Bug fixes for 3 and new features 
for 4, until gtk2 is well established and gtk1.2 dries up.

Edscott



From fourdan at xfce.org  Mon Apr 29 09:38:02 2002
From: fourdan at xfce.org (Olivier Fourdan)
Date: 29 Apr 2002 09:38:02 +0200
Subject: possible bug in 3.8.16
In-Reply-To: <200204282021.25896.edscott@imp.mx>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204281339440.7352-100000@stealth.moongroup.org>
	<1020022445.1227.2.camel@localhost> <1020039645.11432.123.camel@emperor> 
	<200204282021.25896.edscott@imp.mx>
Message-ID: <1020065912.1860.2.camel@olivier.anfora>

Edscott,

Yes, agree, of course we'll maintain Xfce 3.x for a while.

However, I can't reproduce the bug Chuck has reported (even when I'm
using a P4 1.7GHz at work, where I guess it should show there), and I
suspect a problem in xfree or in the card driver although I have no
clue.

Cheers,
Olivier;


On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 03:21, Edscott Wilson Garc?a wrote:
> On Dom 28 Abr 2002 19:20, Joe Klemmer wrote:
> > On Sun, 2002-04-28 at 15:34, Olivier Fourdan wrote:
> > > No changed occured in xfwm for a while so I doubt it's new.
> > >
> > > Anyway, almost 100% of the work in now on xfwm4.
> >
> > 	i.e. XFce3 is dead-end now.   :-P
> 
> I think there could be a transitional period. Bug fixes for 3 and new features 
> for 4, until gtk2 is well established and gtk1.2 dries up.
> 
> Edscott
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce-dev mailing list
> Xfce-dev at moongroup.com
> http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce-dev
> 
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while conserving  system resources. XFce is all free software, released
under GNU General Public License.    Available from http://www.xfce.org



From klemmerj at webtrek.com  Mon Apr 29 15:48:35 2002
From: klemmerj at webtrek.com (Joe Klemmer)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:48:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: possible bug in 3.8.16
In-Reply-To: <200204282021.25896.edscott@imp.mx>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204290945240.28016-100000@snowball.webtrek.com>

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On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, Edscott Wilson Garc?a wrote:

> > > Anyway, almost 100% of the work in now on xfwm4.
> >
> > 	i.e. XFce3 is dead-end now.   :-P
> 
> I think there could be a transitional period. Bug fixes for 3 and new
> features for 4, until gtk2 is well established and gtk1.2 dries up.

	Oh, of course.  I was just being silly.  However I do believe that 
Olivier is going full-steam on XFce4.

	Oh, that reminds me...  Maybe you can fix this for Olivier, 
Edscott.  I posted an email on the XFce list about a small type-o error in 
the Info/About box related to the copyright dates.  If you happen to 
wander into the source anytime soon can you see about fixing it?  I'd do 
it but it seems that I'm just to stoopid to figure out this whole cvs 
thing.  :-)

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From fourdan at xfce.org  Mon Apr 29 15:54:14 2002
From: fourdan at xfce.org (Olivier Fourdan)
Date: 29 Apr 2002 15:54:14 +0200
Subject: possible bug in 3.8.16
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204290945240.28016-100000@snowball.webtrek.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204290945240.28016-100000@snowball.webtrek.com>
Message-ID: <1020088484.27385.6.camel@olivier.anfora>

Joe,

The copyright is updated in the CVS.

Cheers,
Olivier.


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> On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, Edscott Wilson Garc?a wrote:
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> > > > Anyway, almost 100% of the work in now on xfwm4.
> > >
> > > 	i.e. XFce3 is dead-end now.   :-P
> > 
> > I think there could be a transitional period. Bug fixes for 3 and new
> > features for 4, until gtk2 is well established and gtk1.2 dries up.
> 
> 	Oh, of course.  I was just being silly.  However I do believe that 
> Olivier is going full-steam on XFce4.
> 
> 	Oh, that reminds me...  Maybe you can fix this for Olivier, 
> Edscott.  I posted an email on the XFce list about a small type-o error in 
> the Info/About box related to the copyright dates.  If you happen to 
> wander into the source anytime soon can you see about fixing it?  I'd do 
> it but it seems that I'm just to stoopid to figure out this whole cvs 
> thing.  :-)
> 
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From klemmerj at webtrek.com  Mon Apr 29 21:02:08 2002
From: klemmerj at webtrek.com (Joe Klemmer)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:02:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: possible bug in 3.8.16
In-Reply-To: <1020088484.27385.6.camel@olivier.anfora>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204291500590.10094-100000@snowball.webtrek.com>

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On 29 Apr 2002, Olivier Fourdan wrote:

> The copyright is updated in the CVS.

	I wasn't sure if you got my email(s).  I know it's such a little 
thing but I think it is good if the dates are right.  I hope you didn't 
get to peeved at me for bugging you with this.

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