[Xfce-bugs] [Bug 11586] Places above devices in shortcuts in side pane

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https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11586

--- Comment #17 from alexxcons <alexxcons at xfce.org> ---
(In reply to Jay Philips from comment #16)
> (In reply to alexxcons from comment #15)
> > Yea, I read it ... just though it is sufficient to reply in the bug :)  I
> > tend to agree with Theo for the following reasons:
> > - "Files System" usually is the most important device, so imo it should be
> > on top
> 
> To the average user it isnt the most important device. They wont understand
> or touch File System, especially when it requires root access to change
> things. You can check for example the 'Open' or 'Save As' dialog, which
> hides all devices group entries under 'Other Locations' and calls it
> 'Computer' rather than 'File System'.

I agree that the average user might rather use e.g. removable media, though
"File System" is the root of everything. Because of that, imo,  if it is
displayed, it belongs to the top.
How about we just hide it per default ?

> 
> > - People with many devices may have to scroll to access "Files System" ...
> > since it used to be on the very top before, it could make some people
> > unhappy, to see it "degraded" that much (We now can access "Filesystem" via
> > computer on top, which is good, though it takes longer travel to
> > "Filesystem" via computer ) 
> 
> Unfortunately we cant please everyone with any change we make, thats why we
> have so many xfconfig settings i guess :D, but the changes should be what is
> best for most users. Here are how other file managers handle root in the
> shortcuts pane
> 
> Caja: Located in 3rd underneath home and Desktop and before home's other
> child folders
> Nemo: Bottom of group above Trash
> Nautilus: Similar to file dialogs ( Other Locations > Computer ) 
> PCManFM: Not accessible
> PCMan-Qt: Accessible under Computer > File System
> 
> > So I would rather fix the position in tree-view (as well "network" seems to
> > need a position swap there)
> 
> Dont think this is a good idea as mentioned above, but if this is the final
> decision made for shortcut view, then ideally it should be unified with tree
> view.

So each file-manager does it in a different way :)  Actually I think arguments
like "thats the correct order" are always a matter of taste/habbit. I would
prefer to have the possibility to drag and drop devices, like already possible
for bookmarks. (same as dolphin)  ... so everybody can freely order them.


> > Regarding the Go-menu, I will take care. ... I just rebased my
> > remove-gtkAction-etc--WIP branch against current master, to e.g as well
> > include "computer" : https://imgur.com/v3sQzuV.png
> 
> Not sure what i'm seeing here, as the menu isnt open.
Whoops, too slow ...  this time: https://i.imgur.com/Cg4ZNLZ.png

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