[Xfce-bugs] [Bug 14752] New: Possibility to delete data and skip the trashcan has disappeared in context menu in thunar

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            Bug ID: 14752
           Summary: Possibility to delete data and skip the trashcan has
                    disappeared in context menu in thunar
    Classification: Xfce Core
           Product: Thunar
           Version: 1.8.2
          Hardware: PC (x86_64)
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: Medium
         Component: General
          Assignee: xfce-bugs at xfce.org
          Reporter: erik.dubois at gmail.com
                CC: benny at xfce.org, hjudt at xfce.org
  Target Milestone: 1.8.3

It is quite complex what I want to convey.

Best thing is to go chronological with the aid of images.

On ArcoLinux 18.9.5 (mid September release) (Arch Linux based linux system) we
have thunar 1.8.1git-f5147445 installed.

image 1-thunar-1.8.1git-f5147445.jpg to show the version. 

In thunar/preferences/behavior there is now no option for red trash icon or
'Show action to permanently delete files and folders'.
In this thunar version the settings however is TRUE so we see visually in our
icon theme a RED trashcan. We can delete and skip the trashcan if we want.

The right click menu (aka contextmenu called from now on) on a folder or file
would give us a 'delete' menu (red trash icon) under the 'move to trash' menu.

Users of ArcoLinux were accustomed to have it.

Image 2-thunar-1.8.1git-f5147445 to show how it used to look - see red trashcan

--------- UPDATE ARRIVES -------

Then two weeks ago thunar 1.8.2 came in. In the contextmenu we see no red
trashcan anymore so the users complain, why we changed the settings.

Then we started investigating.

We discovered a new setting under behavior that could enable our 'delete' menu
and we would have our red trash can back.

image 3-thunar update 1.8.2.png is there to show extra menu in behavior - this
is now arcolinux 18.10.4 with the new thunar 1.8.2.

New option (Show action to permanently delete files and folders) is there and
it is set to FALSE - so no red trashcan in our context menu - hence people
asking why we changed.

So we said a new option great. Unfortunately it is set to false so people miss
the menu.

You can set it manually via behavior tab to true and it is back in.

Image 4-set manually.png shows that it works fine manually - settings are saved
in settings manager - misc-show-delete-action.

We say to users we will make sure the red trash icon is back and we add the
extra line to 

thunar.xml  ---   <property name="misc-show-delete-action" type="bool"
value="true"/>

We do our updates only to see that upon start thunar (even after reboot) thunar
does not pick up this new setting of 'true' and the red trash icon is not set.

However if we set it manually via the menu the same line -  <property
name="misc-show-delete-action" type="bool" value="true"/> is either set to
false or true so that works.
And if we reboot then the red icon stays there.

Request : put this new option in behavior standard on true - red trashcan is
there as before in Thunar 1.8.1 version

Question : why does thunar not apply this setting

thunar.xml  ---   <property name="misc-show-delete-action" type="bool"
value="true"/>

and thunar does NOT show us this red trashcan when we make an iso and start our
livedvd and later our installation even if it is set to true.


If you need it - here are all our xfce settings :
https://github.com/arcolinux/arcolinux-xfce-thunar/tree/master/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml

Posted 4 images on imgur in a gallery - not sure if I could upload 4 images on
here

I might have stumbled on something but all credits goes to the users.

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