[Xfce-bugs] [Bug 13868] Easy to hide the menubar, tricky to get it back if the shortcut key is not known

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https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13868

Laurentius <laurenciodegiuffra at gmail.com> changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Laurentius <laurenciodegiuffra at gmail.com> ---
I'd say there is something to think about here.
It's true that you can't fall into this issues and getting trapped like that.

I just tried hiding the menu on mousepad, and then i could't revert (Ctrl+M
doesen't work in the Gtk3 version). I had to make a search on the web
(https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=9515). That's ok if you have internet
but a GUI is supposed to be as intuitive as possible. That even 2 different
xfce apps (thunar and mousepad) do not use the same basic, main shortcuts, i
think that's awful. (I hope that is just because we are in the middle of the
switch to Gtk3) 

I don't like proposal 1 (it would be annoying that the app reverts you
settings) nor proposal 2: it adds noise to the very clean interface (that is
one of thunar's achievements). This anti-noise argument would apply also to
Vktor's one, and the fact that probably you would forget what the message said.

I think we should follow good standards. Like firefox's behaviour: hiding the
menu does not disable it's functionality. Firefox is one of the most popular
apps and it is shipped on most linux distros as default. Nowadays almost
everyone know that even if the menu is hidden you can still use it's shortcuts 
and that Alt+v usually manages "View"

If you have hidden the menu, that's probably because you are getting used to
shortcuts, or at least experimenting with them. And even if you don't see the
menu you would try with one of the shortcuts to see if it works. That's what i
call intuitiveness.

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