[Thunar-dev] Violation of EU Regulation by gvfs

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
Tue Mar 19 23:19:43 CET 2013

On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 10:34 -0700, Auke Kok wrote:
> This thread is completely bullocks, please don't send this type of stuff 
> to this list:
> 1) the EU regulations are not in effect outside of the EU, so Xfce has 
> all the rights they have to distribute software which might violate EU 
> regulations, if the intended target isn't specifically the EU (Like the 
> other 5.6 billion people in the world).
> 2) The EU regulations apply to "devices". This law only therefore is
> applicable to people who distribute "devices". "Software" distributors 
> may be asked by "device" distributors to comply, but that's about it.
> 3) Nothing forces anybody to spin down drives if the drives consume less
> power than the EU regulations require (yes, I read the entire german 
> article).
> 4) This is an issue that should be solved in the gvfs project. Proposing 
> to drop gvfs entirely is so incredibly out of proportion that your 
> message only makes things worse.
> 5) You can patch gvfs yourself, it's open source, dammit.
> 6) Xfce is WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. Please read the copyright 
> message in every file/project. Nothing in Xfce says that it's intended 
> to comply with any legal regulation.
> 7) Every user has the legal right to run Xfce or any of their own 
> software, including software that violates EU regulations, because those 
> regulations generally only apply to commercial distributors, and not 
> people tinkering with their own systems. This is commonly legally put 
> under "educational" use.
> ... I could go on like this for a while ...
> If you want to make some progress to actually fixing the problem, do it 
> the right way and don't throw around bogus legal threats, please.
> 1) file a performance/power consumption bug directly against the gvfs 
> project upstream
> 2) do not mention local regulations or stupid legalities that you do not 
> understand, instead say "we could save power"
> 3a) fix it yourself or
> 3b) get someone to fix it for you
> Regards,
> Auke

Hi Auke,

reconsider that the drives of many Linux users already failed and just a
minority is able to fix the issue them self.


Thank you, for the good atmosphere for reporting an issue.


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