[Thunar-dev] Some minor thingies...

[Yo'av Moshe]

Umm, as far as I know, using this method as a whole for Thunar is not
possible, since Apple (If I can remember correctly) has a patent for
it. This is why I thought we should only be using it for the sidepane.

Can someone confirm the patent thing? I can dig my mails but not at 4:20...

Yo'av.

On 3/10/06, Peter <hpklett at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Yo'av Moshe wrote:
>
> >I think this idea rocks.
> >
> >
> Me too, however, I think we've got somewhat different pictures as to
> what the idea is ;).  I actually mentioned this as a feature for Thunar
> as a whole, not just the shortcut pane.  It also happens to solve the
> shortcut pane problem, so it was a nice opportunity to shamelessly plug
> a wish list item ;).
>
> I had actually drafted an e-mail on the subject, but didn't want to send
> it until I had a working patch.  I've grown sick of being helpless to
> shape the software I use, and wanted to make a feature request with a
> patch.  Then I realized that there's a problem: I'm a punk programmer.
> Four years of C and no real projects under my belt mean that I have to
> beg and plead, instead of doing it myself.  That said, I will make a
> horribly off-topic statement: if anybody knows of an outstanding
> resource on GLib for noobs, I'd be grateful ;).  The "official" tutorial
> contradicts itself often, doesn't give context, and, um, hasn't even
> been spell-checked.
>
> >The normal solution most applications use - the black line that shows
> >wheter you're draging an object into or below another object, is nice,
> >but can confuse and is sometimes hard to do (with a jagged mouse,
> >e.g.).
> >
> >The hovering solution is the best, and can take Thunar a step further
> >other common file managers..
> >
> >A user chooses folder A this is inside folder B, and want to move it
> >into D, a folder in the sidepane. He drags A into D, and on the moment
> >his mouse is hovering D, the content of D is shown on the main pane.
> >He puts it there, and Thunar goes back to the previeus view.
> >
> >
> Going back to the previous view after the hover takes place is something
> to which I wholly object.  It's confusing, and one has to know that it's
> going to do this.  Besides that, the pathbar doesn't snap back.  Really,
> if you're doing a lot of stuff in the same folder, opening new windows
> is more viable.
>
> >If he wants to drag A into the sidepane, to add it as a shortcut, he
> >just leaves it anywhere in the sidepane. He shouldn't care seeing D in
> >the main pane for a few moments.
> >
> >
> If you have to hover for a given period of time (i.e. the same amount of
> time it takes for the pathbar), seeing D in the main pane shouldn't even
> be relevant.
>
> >I hope you got the idea - it may sound complex, but I think it can put
> >some smiles on Thunar new users, giving them options without confusing
> >them.
> >
> >Yo'av.
> >
> Benedikt: I would like to hear how you feel about hovering in any form.
> I understand if you purposely don't have an opinion on the matter, other
> than staying out of it.  If you do have any explicit thoughts on the
> matter, however, please share :).
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