[Thunar-dev] Thunar launcher does not behave as I think it should ?! Update One

[Jelle de Jong]

Hmm, ok we do have different opinions about usability but that is fine
lets see if we can do a compromise.

As Mike nicely explained that the "exo-desktop-item-edit" command is for
changing the *.desktop files. Lets see if we can improve this tool.

If we now open the program we get these fields:

Name: (still weird behavior is I type bla here)
Comment:
Command:
Icon:
Option:
	->Use startup notification
	->Run in terminal


Now I want to create this launcher (just as example):

#File name:close-application (maybe close-application.desktop)
#Launcher Name:Close Application
#Comment:Kill a broken applications
#Command:xfce4-terminal -x ~/scripts/xkill.sh
#Icon:/usr/share/icons/Tango/scalable/apps/utilities-system-monitor.svg

Now to improve the program:

show these edit fields and buttons and check boxes

Launcher name:
(when typed here the file name will automatically change with it, so if
I type "bla" here. then the filename will become "bla.desktop")
File name:
(If I type here it will change and disable the automatic file name
generation when I type in the edit box of the launcher name:
Comment:
(Just a edit box, this is ok)
Command: ... Button
(Just a edit box, and a button to open the open file dialog to select a
file)
(make sure that commands executed in a terminal will work for example:
xfce4-terminal -x ~/scripts/xkill.sh this command does not work, but
does when executed via a terminal. xterm -e ~/scripts/xkill.sh this
command will work but the above not, bit strange)
Icon: ... Button
(Just a edit box, and a button to open the open file dialog to select a
file)
Icon Preview box
Check box: Use startup notification
Check box: Run in terminal

It is a little bit as when you add a launcher to the panel. Is the
example clear enough? Can this be created?

Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> Jelle de Jong wrote:
>> Thunar launcher does not behave as I think it should
>>
>> Linux xubuntu 6.10
>>
>> Go to the desktop:
>>
>> Right clink -> Create launcher..
>> Name: bla
>> wait for a few secs -> Things are now popping up that I can't explain.
>> Comment: blabla
>> Command: xterm
>> -> Press create button
>>
>> Test it by executing the launcher it should open xterm
>>
>> Now go with thunar to the location where the launcher is located.
>> In my case the launcher is on the desktop so i go there, I do:
>> thunar ~/Desktop
>>
>> Copy the launcher and past it two times:
>>
>> Normally if you copy a file it will show the file name and extension:
>>
>> But now it will just show the launchers three times.
>> Now rename the all the created launchers to:
>>
>> bla one
>> bla two
>> bla three
>>
>> You would expect that the file names have changed but they did not.
>>
>> Lest see what really is going on:
>> ls ~/Desktop | grep bla
>> shows:
>> bla.desktop
>> copy of bla.desktop
>> another copy of bla.desktop
> 
> This is the expected behavior. Renaming .desktop files changes the Name
> entry, not the file name.
> 
>> If you want to correct the names you now have to manually open en save
>> them in a text editor or with the command line tools.
> 
> Why would you want to? The file name of a .desktop file doesn't matter
> at all. The only thing that matters is that each file has a unique name,
>  and Thunar takes care of this.
> 
>> Create a new launcher the input field name will become only the name of
>> the file not both the name and a entry in the launcher file. Separate
>> the file name from the launcher name entry.
> 
> Sure, but why would you complicate things? As said, the file name is
> irrelevant for launchers.
> 
>> By the Icon make it possible
>> to paste a link directly to select a icon. Crtl + L in the dialog
>> doesn't work great.
> 
> Err, what?
> 
>> Now on the desktop you can remove the extension *.desktop from being
>> shown. But in thunar it will be show like with every other file.
> 
> Both Thunar and xfdesktop will hide the .desktop extension, except for
> .desktop files identified as malware.
> 
>> If you copy and rename files with thunar or with a command line tool.
>> The name of the launcher will change with it and not only the entry
>> field in the launcher file. If you want to change the name entry field
>> you have to edit the launcher.
> 
> That'd be a bug. Rename in Thunar/xfdesktop will only change the Name
> field, but never the file name.
> 
> Benedikt
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