[Thunar-dev] Website draft - (X)HTML Standards

Nick Schermer nickschermer at gmail.com
Sat Sep 3 15:08:33 CEST 2005

2005/9/2, Jannis Pohlmann <info at sten-net.de>:
> Hey all,
> I just read Benny's weblog and noticed there's kind of a final draft for
> the Thunar website now. Since I've been creating websites for about six
> or seven years I noticed some things which are, putting it mildly, not
> acceptable concerning (X)HTML standards. These are:
> 1. Don't use <blockquote/> for things which don't have to do with
> quotations (like paragraphs or groups of elements). That's what they
> are made for and *not* for indenting paragraphs of text.

I used these because it looks better without css

1.1 Use <p/> for text paragraphs. Maybe add a class attribute for
> indenting here, like <p class="block"/> or something. Do not use
> <div/> in this case.
> 1.2 Use <div/> for nothing else than grouping other (X)HTML elements.
> 1.3 Use <ul/> or <ol/> for listings like the different versions of
> Thunar available for download.

Jeh good one didn't even think about it :P.

2. You probably won't need <div id="header2"></div>. Replace it with a
> smarter solution - there certainly is one, like moving the background
> image into div#header or even h1. Empty elements like this don't make
> sense.
> 3. Don't use "align='center'". Use CSS (text-align:center) here.

Only used it because it's fast

4. Don't use "target='_blank'". If people click on a link you have to
> expect that they want to replace the Thunar website with the new one.

I'll remove that one. 

5. Don't use <div/> if it only contains *one* element. Instead, apply
> CSS for the only child and remove the <div/> - it's possible, believe
> me.
> Of course, I know it's just a draft. Anyway, I thought this might be
> helpful.
> That's it for now. If there are any questions left, feel free to ask
> them. If you need help in cleaning up or adjust the draft for better
> support of the W3C standards, please let me know. We'd certainly find a
> solution.

I'm also web designing for some years now, but I test the website in a lot 
of browsers
and when it looks fine I'm happy with that and when I view a website as a 
visitor I don't
care if the designer used <div>, <p> or <table>, if it works good I'm fine 
with that.

I'll change some of the tags (the table will be removed), because it could 
be nicer, but
if everything works fine I'm not changing everything again.

Anyway I'll update the stuff a bit tonight and if you have any suggestions 
after that, I'd like
to hear them.

Greets, Xerverius
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