[Goodies-dev] Audio thumbnailer

[Christian Dywan]

Am Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:41:03 +0200
schrieb "Dirk Vanden Boer" <dirk.vdb at gmail.com>:

> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Dirk Vanden Boer
> <dirk.vdb at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Erlend Davidson
> > <E.R.M.Davidson at sms.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Dirk Vanden Boer wrote:
> >>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Dirk Vanden Boer
> >>> <dirk.vdb at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> All the music downloaded from iTunes contains cover art,
> >>>> otherwise the ipod won't show a picture when playing the audio,
> >>>> but players like amarok, muine also support it, and I do it for
> >>>> all my music :-)
> >>>>
> >> What audio formats use id3v2?  I thought it was just mp3.
> >
> > Aac also supports it, but tag lib can also read tags from ogg,
> > mpc,... files. So these can be added later.
> >
> >> It's quite an interesting idea, and I hope folder thumbnails are
> >> made possible in Thunar in the future, since this would be quite a
> >> good way of representing a music album folder.
> >> I think iTunes only embeds the cover art if you actually drag the
> >> image when the track is playing.  When you download music from
> >> iTunes it is placed in some subdirectory - I think?Also some media
> >> players call the album cover "folder.jpg" and put it in the same
> >> directory as the music. It might be useful to hook into these to
> >> extract the thumbnails too... only problem is that the iTunes
> >> album art might be licenced, so it could be breaking the law to
> >> use that (anybody know?).
> >
> > I have no idea about that. Your only using for a thumbnail, seems
> > pretty harmless.
> >
> >> There is another issue that replacing the theme music icon my an
> >> image could be confusing to users.  I've already discussed this
> >> with Benny for PDFs - having thumbnails for *everything* makes it
> >> more difficult to determine filetypes, unless there is some emblem
> >> of the thumbnail to indicate the type.
> >
> > I have been thinking about this as well, Overlaying a music note
> > picture might be a good idea here.
> >
> >>>>
> >>>>>>  The thumbnailer is written in c++
> >>>>>> and consists of three sourcefiles, I think it's a bit overkill
> >>>>>> to create a seperate project for this like I did with
> >>>>>> ffmpegthumbnailer. So I was wondering if it can be included in
> >>>>>> the thunar-thumbnailers code archive?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Currently there is no binary code in Thunar-thumbnailers.  When
> >>>>> I need to write a binary to do something I have created (or
> >>>>> used) an external project - for example raw-thumbnailer (which
> >>>>> is less than 100 lines of code) and your ffmpegthumbnailer.  In
> >>>>> a sense Thunar-thumbnailers is just a set of rules for
> >>>>> generating thumbnails.
> >>>>>
> >>>> I understand, so it's probably better to just create an new
> >>>> project on google code.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Can you post the thumbnailer to this list please?
> >>>>>
> >>>> Attached is the file containing the modifications I made to
> >>>> thunar-thumbnailers. The configuration stuff isn't perfect yet
> >>>> (make install doesn't correctly install it yet I think, I had to
> >>>> do some manual tweaking) but it should allow you to build the
> >>>> thumbnailer. Dependencies are Taglib and Imagemagick.
> >> The only disadvantage to having it as a separate project is that it
> >> gives distribution maintainers more packages to maintain, and
> >> sometimes they (Debian, and as a result Ubuntu) won't add
> >> something for ages.  I still feel it's the best thing to do though
> >> (harping back to the Unix philosophy that one program does one
> >> thing).
> >
> > Since the thumbnailer is optional they can still package it withouth
> > it being enabled, at least
> > the people who really want to use it can build it from source.
> 
> I added an option to put the cover image on a cdcase which should make
> it more clear that the thumbnail is for an audio file and not an
> image.
> I made a screenshot which will explain it better :-)
> http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg184/dirk_vdb/audiothumbnailer.png

Hey Dirk,

actually the cd case makes me think of *albums*, ie. folders, when I
see it. It takes me a second look on the filename to see that these are
music files.

I suggest you rather go for a different decoration.

ciao,
    Christian